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Battery types for FJ?

Started by WhiteBeard, September 26, 2011, 07:56:47 AM

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WhiteBeard

Time to exchange my poor battery which is hanging on by the skin of its teeth.
Phoned the local Yamaha dealership, asked them about ordering a AGM-battery but was told that this was not a recommended battery type for my particular bike.  Anybody knows the reason for this, could it be a heating issue?
Also looking into heavy-duty batteries because of the cold and shifting climates I'm in. Anybody out there having the same thoughts?

andyb

Because the dealer doesn't want responsibility.  Also, they want to sell you three batteries rather than just a single AGM.


Arnie

Your dealer probably told you that because it wasn't in his parts listing and he couldn't make the same margin on an AGM battery.

I know a guy living in the outskirts of Detroit that didn't put the battery from his "toy" (aka Toyota MR2) on a tender all winter fully expecting it to be dead by spring.  It was, so he'd take it back to Walmart and get a new one under warranty.  Did this for 4 or 5 years.

Arnie 

SlowOldGuy

About 5 years ago, I put an AGM battery from Batteries Plus in my '85.  Replaced it on Saturday.  That's twice as long as any other battery has lasted in that bike.

DavidR.

WhiteBeard

Thanks for the advice guys, I'll go for the AGM battery, found one at half the price of the dealers unsealed battery, seems like a decent deal...

Once again, thanks.

rktmanfj

Quote from: WhiteBeard on September 26, 2011, 01:54:58 PM
Thanks for the advice guys, I'll go for the AGM battery, found one at half the price of the dealers unsealed battery, seems like a decent deal...

Once again, thanks.

You'll like it a lot!      :good:

fj1200d

I got mine from these guys http://stores.ebay.com/chromebattery Installed just this year so will see how it holds up.

FJmonkey

Quote from: WhiteBeard on September 26, 2011, 07:56:47 AM
Time to exchange my poor battery which is hanging on by the skin of its teeth.
Phoned the local Yamaha dealership, asked them about ordering a AGM-battery but was told that this was not a recommended battery type for my particular bike.  Anybody knows the reason for this, could it be a heating issue?
Also looking into heavy-duty batteries because of the cold and shifting climates I'm in. Anybody out there having the same thoughts?
Simi_Ed put a Lithium Ion battery in his bike, more cranking amps and the battery was smaller than stock...Says his hot starting problem went away as well. Not cheap in price but Li is the strongest and most modern battery. Might be worth a try...
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Mike 86 in San Dimas

Ed, Mark,
Where did the Lith battery come from?
Mike

FJmonkey

The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

simi_ed

I'm not so sure about the hot start thing being fixed.  I had another bout of that when I killed the engine at a light and had to restart.  I did the typical 1/4 throttle crank thing to get back on the move.  The battery is still 8 pounds lighter and about 1/2 to 2/3 the size of the wet cell battery.  It is also 100% maintenance free.  The typical life is supposed to be around 10 years too.

If you can spare the extra cash ... it still seems like a good investment.
-- RKBA Regards,

Ed
===
Ed Thiele 
Simi Valley, CA -- I no longer have SoCal manners.
'89 FJ12C (Theft deterrent Silver/White)


- All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for
enough good men to do nothing.

- Edmund Burke

Dazza57

Hi all, in the market for new ergs. Has anyone had experience with the AGM in a hot climate, ie 40C+ ? What model should I target?

Cheers, Dazza
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rktmanfj

Quote from: Dazza57 on November 23, 2011, 04:43:28 AM
Hi all, in the market for new ergs. Has anyone had experience with the AGM in a hot climate, ie 40C+ ? What model should I target?

Cheers, Dazza

Weather here runs from there to way below zero on either scale.

I like the AGMs, though by the time mine wears out there may be something better available, maybe already.  Ed mentions it in the thread linked below.

IME, they last several years, with minimal care.

Last one I had was a WestCo, new one is a 'Big Crank' made by East Penn.

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2456.0



fj11.5

ive looked into a few types of 12v 14mah fj type batteries, seems in aus a gel type battery are slightly smaller but more efficient at  cold crank, and hold a charge better, for about the same price as a lead acid battery, lithium would be great, but for my use these days too expensive to warrant buying one  (popcorn) (popcorn)
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

RichBaker

Quote from: Dazza57 on November 23, 2011, 04:43:28 AM
Hi all, in the market for new ergs. Has anyone had experience with the AGM in a hot climate, ie 40C+ ? What model should I target?

Cheers, Dazza

I live in Tucson, AZ, typical summer temp is 102F to 110F, about 40C +..... and the AGM works great, lives long. The 1st one I had lasted about 6 years, the current one is a couple years old and I epect a similar lifetime out of it.
Rich Baker - NRA Life, AZCDL, Trail Riders of S. AZ. , AMA Life, BRC, HEAT Dirt Riders, SAMA....
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