bike wont stay running

[racerrad8]

Marsh, I think he is stressed, getting bashed by us when the PO did the super quality work and left him with a sub standard bike. That would drive me batty (homicidal) . The older the bike, the more crazy and numerous the PO's are found. Bugger the PO's!!!!

That's all fine and dandy that he is "stressed", but I think he has turned/pissed off those that have a great amount of experience by his reply posts of those offering assistance.

His posts are condescending, rude and basically tell those who have tried to help him to date: Nope, you don't know what you're talking about.

The ironic part of it all is the fact I look at the picture, after reading all of his posts, for just a few seconds and it appears the in-line valve the "PO" installed is closed. It might let a little bit of fuel by, but it would likely run out causing the bike to "die"...

This website is a great source of information and people willing to help, but 99% of the time the answers are "spitball" answers trying to narrow the problem because no one explains things the same way.

From there the receiver of that "help" should not be condescending telling someone "it's common sense", "okay boss let me explain this a little easier for ya", and finally "better? good".

And now after I respond there is a valve in line; "hold on, there is a valve on it and it does shut the fuel off when needed."

Maybe, he can turn around the many he has alienated and get the assistance he needs, but again, by the tone of his replies; we'll have to see what happens.

Randy - RPM

[irishluck]

ah gotcha, ok ok, help me get this bike running. i can use all the advice i can get and would appreciate it. 

problem is, that part is 167 dollars.

Whats another choice here....

[Kopfjaeger]

Thats an aftermarket Pet cock? ... wow....looks like a plate with a hole drilled in it.

[FJmonkey]

Marsh, I think he is stressed, getting bashed by us when the PO did the super quality work and left him with a sub standard bike. That would drive me batty (homicidal) . The older the bike, the more crazy and numerous the PO's are found. Bugger the PO's!!!!

That's all fine and dandy that he is "stressed", but I think he has turned/pissed off those that have a great amount of experience by his reply posts of those offering assistance.

His posts are condescending, rude and basically tell those who have tried to help him to date: Nope, you don't know what you're talking about.

The ironic part of it all is the fact I look at the picture, after reading all of his posts, for just a few seconds and it appears the in-line valve the "PO" installed is closed. It might let a little bit of fuel by, but is would likely run out causing the bike to "die"...

This website is a great source of information and people willing to help, but 99% of the time the answers are "spitball" answers trying to narrow the problem because no one explains things the same way.

From there the receiver of that "help" should not be condescending telling someone "it's common sense", "okay boss let me explain this a little easier for ya", "better? good".

And now after I respond there is a valve in line; "hold on, there is a valve on it and it does shut the fuel off when needed."

Maybe, he can turn around the many he has alienated and get the assistance he needs, but again, by the tone of his replies; we'll have to see what happens.

Randy - RPM

Randy, I see your point and respect it. I have been stuck at times when I did not know I was lacking information,  not knowing when to scratch my watch or wind my ass. Maybe I am just over tolerant for most. I think he is trying but is hitting walls with language or what he is used to in communicating by written language.

Looks like Irish has collected the gist. Good on ya.....As you were.

[irishluck]

okay so i didnt tgive the full deatils and blew up a little, sorry, im a stressed guy.


so can we move past this and i guess go on.

and just to let ya knbow, yes the valve is turned off cause the gas tank is off the bike and i dont want it leaking all over anything really.

so my question is now, is there a less expensive way to fixing this then buying a new oem replacement that is 160 bucks?

[indyblue]

so my question is now, is there a less expensive way to fixing this then buying a new oem replacement that is 160 bucks?

My guess would be no.  Cutting corners on the fuel systems on these bikes is (literally) playing with fire.  If you want to be sure you won't turn into a flaming street rocket get the correct OEM part for safety 's sake.

Do you have any motorcycle re-recyclers  in your area?  Here in Indy we have a couple places called Cycle-Recycle and they have thousands of parts bikes and used parts.  Perhaps you can find a used tank/petcock.

[Flying Scotsman]

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[FJmonkey]

okay so i didnt tgive the full deatils and blew up a little, sorry, im a stressed guy.


so can we move past this and i guess go on.

and just to let ya knbow, yes the valve is turned off cause the gas tank is off the bike and i dont want it leaking all over anything really.

so my question is now, is there a less expensive way to fixing this then buying a new oem replacement that is 160 bucks?

Irish, there should be some options for you. I have a stock valve and have cleaned it out a few times, major budget issues. You have some "PO" type fix that needs to be replaced. There are other after market fixes like the Pingle valve, maybe Randy has some input on this. OEM petcocks are getting harder to find but solutions are out there.....Like some mystical voice is whispering the background.....Keep the faith brother.

[irishluck]

I mean I understand the fact that I need to get an actually Petcock and not the cheap version of what the PO did.

so my question is now, is there a less expensive way to fixing this then buying a new oem replacement that is 160 bucks?

My guess would be no.  Cutting corners on the fuel systems on these bikes is (literally) playing with fire.  If you want to be sure you won't turn into a flaming street rocket get the correct OEM part for safety 's sake.

Do you have any motorcycle re-recyclers  in your area?  Here in Indy we have a couple places called Cycle-Recycle and they have thousands of parts bikes and used parts.  Perhaps you can find a used tank/petcock.

a flaming street rocket be kinda cool ha

no but on a serious note, i do know of one place down here where I'm at in kansas city, called auto cycle i do believe, they deal with alot of used parts. They actually parted out a 85 fj1200 and i bought the chain adjuster and gas cap off. Have to see if the petcock looks up for grabs.

Flying Scotsman:

That petcock looks good at all but one question. what is that plug that comes off of it, I don't even see a plug on my bike for that?

Irish, there should be some options for you. I have a stock valve and have cleaned it out a few times, major budget issues. You have some "PO" type fix that needs to be replaced. There are other after market fixes like the Pingle valve, maybe Randy has some input on this. OEM petcocks are getting harder to find but solutions are out there.....Like some mystical voice is whispering the background.....Keep the faith brother.

Oh i know ill be able to find something, just the money issue is all ha. what exactly is a pingle valve?

Well if anyone has any feed on an after market one that doesn't look like my crap one, that be great!

[rktmanfj]

 



         

[Mark Olson]

ok, go into the service area of your m/c shop and borrow the aux fuel tank and hook it up to your carbs and verify that the fj runs with an alternative fuel source.

Then you will know for sure if it is indeed a tank petcock problem. 

[Travis398]

They actually parted out a 85 fj1200

That petcock looks good at all but one question. what is that plug that comes off of it, I don't even see a plug on my bike for that?

85 is an 1100 with no reserve switch.  In 86 (1200) they went with the electric reserve switch, does your bike have a reserve switch on the left side near the choke cable?

[Pat Conlon]

They actually parted out a 85 fj1200
That petcock looks good at all but one question. what is that plug that comes off of it, I don't even see a plug on my bike for that?

85 is an 1100 with no reserve switch.  In 86 (1200) they went with the electric reserve switch, does your bike have a reserve switch on the left side near the choke cable?

Irish/Travis....
There was a reason why I suggested a '84/85 oem petcock. Stay away from the troublesome wacky oem electric reserve petcocks.

[Travis398]

I was just explaining what he had. Trying not to influence his decision. I assume he knows his options are
1. stock (w/reserve sw.)
2. 1100 petcock
3. Aftermarket

In reverse order of course.

[Kopfjaeger]

" ....Irish/Travis....
There was a reason why I suggested a '84/85 oem petcock. Stay away from the troublesome wacky oem electric reserve petcocks...."
blasphemy pat... never had a problem with my original OEM 25 yr old petrol tap.