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ZX-10 Carbs work well on the FJ?

Started by craigo, January 27, 2011, 06:40:31 PM

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fj1250

I don't think the FZ1 carbs will work due to spacing.
FJ's have the cam chain in the middle of the cylinders, FZ1 has it on the end.
I think the carbs are evenly spaced on the FZ's.

MC

Dan Filetti

Quote from: fj1250 on January 31, 2011, 04:02:05 AM
I don't think the FZ1 carbs will work due to spacing.
FJ's have the cam chain in the middle of the cylinders, FZ1 has it on the end.
I think the carbs are evenly spaced on the FZ's.

MC

Despite what sounds like a cogent reposnse with sound reasoning, and knowing NOTHING more than who posted the original comment (David R.) and his deep well of carb related knowledge, I'd bet a 5 spot that he's right, and you're not.

Just saying....

(popcorn)
Live hardy, or go home. 

Pat Conlon

IIRC the Mikuni FZ-1 carbs are used on the FJ rack using the BS36's throttle shaft and plates...But they are a bitch to overhaul and clean...

David will enlighten us  
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Travis398

Quote from: Dan Filetti on January 31, 2011, 10:21:44 AM
Quote from: fj1250 on January 31, 2011, 04:02:05 AM
I don't think the FZ1 carbs will work due to spacing.
FJ's have the cam chain in the middle of the cylinders, FZ1 has it on the end.
I think the carbs are evenly spaced on the FZ's.

MC

Despite what sounds like a cogent reposnse with sound reasoning, and knowing NOTHING more than who posted the original comment (David R.) and his deep well of carb related knowledge, I'd bet a 5 spot that he's right, and you're not.

Just saying....

(popcorn)

(popcorn)


When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

SlowOldGuy

It's been a few years, But when I was working on a set of FZ carbs, I held them up to a set of FJ carbs and the spacing "looked" identical.  I currently have both sets of carbs on the bench in my garage.  If I can remember to do it, I'll compare them again tonight.

Not sure about the throttle linkage, Pat, but you're correct about them being a PITA to work on.

DavidR.

tqmx1

Well one nice thing with the FZ1 carbs you don't fry your hands when trying to ajust the idle speed. The only bitch I have with them is the mixture screws are on the bottom insted of the top like on the FJs

fj1250

I'll bet a 5 spot that someone with enough time on they're hands and a dremel tool could make FZ1 carbs fit.

Pat Conlon

1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

simi_ed

OK, I've got a set of 1st gen FZ-1 carbs  I bought about 3 years ago.  I never even opened the box when they showed up.  I'm in $200.  I just want out.  Any nibbles???  Craig??   Cheaper than a set of ZX-10 carbs, anyway ...

Ed
-- RKBA Regards,

Ed
===
Ed Thiele 
Simi Valley, CA -- I no longer have SoCal manners.
'89 FJ12C (Theft deterrent Silver/White)


- All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for
enough good men to do nothing.

- Edmund Burke

craigo

Quote from: Pat Conlon on February 01, 2011, 01:11:24 AM
So.....Who's gonna try them???.....I nominate ..... CRAIG!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KAWASAKI-ZX1000R-CARBS-CARBURETORS-86-87-NINJA-1000-/190477401673?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c59567e49#ht_1282wt_1119

Craig is a little poor of late. :cray: Craig needs to sell some property.   :hi:
Craig is also going to Europe in March with the wife for a couple of weeks. Germany to be exact, to visit the inlaws. (the reason for his current poverty)  :ireful:

So if you nominate Craig to try the carbs, someone other than Craig will have to pay for the carbs. Or I have to win the lottery or something like that.
CraigO
90FJ1200

craigo

Didn't I just read somewhere how much fun the FZ1 carbs are to work with?  :diablo:

I also read the you have to mod the boots off the airbox on the ZX10 carbs.  :ireful:

I don't know what I am going to do with my carb problem right now.  But when I get back from vacation, sell some real estate and get a little ahead, I will let you know.

Cheer, you guys.  Thanks for all the info.

CraigO
90FJ1200
CraigO
90FJ1200

SlowOldGuy

Well, I held them up nose to nose last night and the FZ1 spacing is identical to the FJ spacing.  The location of the cam chain is not a factor, the center carbs are spaced out like the FJ because it's needed to clear the throttle cable mechanism.

The only difference that I could see is the throttle mechanism open backwards of the FJ; throttle opens by pulling up on the rear cable rather than the front.  No idea if the FJ throttle cables will work in the FZ linkage.

DavidR.

SlowOldGuy

Quote from: tqmx1 on January 31, 2011, 05:02:44 PM
Well one nice thing with the FZ1 carbs you don't fry your hands when trying to ajust the idle speed. The only bitch I have with them is the mixture screws are on the bottom insted of the top like on the FJs

I have permanently scarred knuckles on the first 2 fingers of my right hand from reaching in to adjust the idle speed of a hot FJ engine.  Now a carry a long screwdriver for that chore.

With the Motion Pro 90 degree screwdriver (~$30), adjusting the FZ mixture screws is a breeze, no tank removal required!

DavidR.

JMR

 You should be able to make a flexible extension (like those found on the FCR's or late model carb equipped bikes). I have done this for CR29/31's used on CB750's. Works great.

andyb

^^ Got a picture of that?  I'd love to add a remote adjustment to the FJ's impossibly hard to reach idle screw.  Long screwdrivers are the best way to do it, but it'd be nicer to not carry yet another tool for the task.