oil leak

[Kopfjaeger]

  wow and cos i cant get to work i just got fired b*st*rds

[Harvy]

wow and cos i cant get to work i just got fired b*st*rds

Neil.....Sorry to hear it mate, that sucks!

Harvy

[Kopfjaeger]

it happens. got a bit sick o working on dirty diesels any how. now off to source that bloody leak!!!! might have a smoke first but.....

[Kopfjaeger]

ok. this has got to be the worst week in history. camera is eating batteries and peevving me off. OK. so what i need to kinda know afore i go a rip tear into mine engine is it is possible for an oil galley to blow through? i mean i know its possible but any one had that? its a bit far fetched but i just cannot source it. from the third fin down in the middle of the engine  3 fins down from the head gasket, weeping( actually a LOT) from the fin in the middle of the engine  benaeth the cam chain moulding where those two nuts sit. but once again 3 fins down and the head gasket is dry as a nuns nasty. is it possible to crack barrells? i dont run it hot and its always had good oil in it. has anyone used Hylomar on their head gasket?  i just dont want to kill it and today is the first ride i have had in 3 weeks or so and it was only round the block looks like a 2 stroke at lights...... goin nuts. its like trying to understand women finding this oil leak i will try and at least post some bodgy pics from my phone.

[Kopfjaeger]

feck it im parking it and leaving it. bastard can rot in my shed.

[Harvy]

Neil......the only thing I can think of is maybe there is a hairline crack from the cam chain tunnel to one of those studs?

Harvy

[Kopfjaeger]

your probably right on the money harvey i have drawn the same conclusion it really cant be anything else. sick of it. shes a tempremenstrual ol bitch, you fix one thing something totally unrelated goes..." really? im gunna break now" so i have filled it with oil and its staying in the shed. done. gsx is  looking more promising and less hassle all i have had to do is replace rec reg and a starter solonoid, hasnt run for years fired up after 3 tries. think i have found some headers and a master cylinder for the front brakes, so rego and away we go. the fj is lucky right now it doesnt get a 2 dollar tune up

[weymouth399]

It is probably a crack in the head on the front side.
They can crack on both sides in front. HSR, Hank welds both sides if it needs it or not.
I will try to post a pic to show the fix not a bad joj but the head has to come off.
Bob W

[Kopfjaeger]

thanks bob that would be interesting to look at see if i can get it done. if you ll all excuse me im going to pull my head out of my arse and stop sulking and get on with it.
copyouslater. and thanks .

[racerrad8]

ok. this has got to be the worst week in history. camera is eating batteries and peevving me off. OK. so what i need to kinda know afore i go a rip tear into mine engine is it is possible for an oil galley to blow through? i mean i know its possible but any one had that? its a bit far fetched but i just cannot source it. from the third fin down in the middle of the engine  3 fins down from the head gasket, weeping( actually a LOT) from the fin in the middle of the engine  benaeth the cam chain moulding where those two nuts sit. but once again 3 fins down and the head gasket is dry as a nuns nasty. is it possible to crack barrells? i dont run it hot and its always had good oil in it. has anyone used Hylomar on their head gasket?  i just dont want to kill it and today is the first ride i have had in 3 weeks or so and it was only round the block looks like a 2 stroke at lights...... goin nuts. its like trying to understand women finding this oil leak i will try and at least post some bodgy pics from my phone.

There are no oil galleys in the center of the engine. The only oil located in that area will be the oil sling and drain from the timing chain & head. The studs are all exposed about three fins down and if there is a leak from the valve cover gasket it will run down the moisture drain holes and to the front of the engine. Remember the engine is tilted downward at the front so all leaking oil is going to accumulate at the front of the engine.

Have you had the tank off to make sure it is not the v/c gasket or grommets?

Like Bob stated earlier, they do crack near the top of the head on the cam chain kickout. I have only seen this on the engines used in the racecars as the engine is being used as a structural member of the chassis and the extreme heat the engine sees mounted sideway if the car; never on a bike. And since the head gasket is dry that probably means there is no crack.

I have also never seen an oil leak due to a head gasket. The oil galleys are on the right two studs of the engine and use o-rings to seal them. The head gasket has a silver paint sealant applied from the factory, no other sealant should be used.

I will take some pictures of an engine and post them this weekend and maybe you can illustrate on them where it is coming from since you are unable to get any photos.


Randy - RPM

[andyb]

No oil galleys in that location, as randy said.

However yes, galleys can crack through to nearby areas.  If you have a 74-77 KZ400 with oil coming from the headgasket area, it's because the rear studs are set too close to a pressurized oil galley.  The cases crack a pinch and oil seeps up, along the studs, to the headgasket which isn't capable of holding in the pressure.  Was a factory recall on it many years ago, and now  the parts are no longer available.  Don't ask why I know this, but I've got a summer project to do...

[Kopfjaeger]

nah dont stress randy. the women in me came out yesterday, but having calmed down and stopped torturing small animals  i have pulled head out of arse and  just going to leave it for a bit. no work cant afford to fix it so rather than sod it up and have another unfinsihed bike im just going to leave it and focus my energies on the gsx. picking up some headers and brake master cylinder, going to strip and rebuild brake calipers today, and give  the front end a going over, thanks for the help

[Kopfjaeger]

[Kopfjaeger]

you cant see the drip ( not me the oil) but its the second fin you see down from the nuts. gave them a tweak too just to make sure but its still dripping when running about a drip every 20 secs. rustproofing all my pipes etc. theres no rush anymore i aint touching just pleased to get a pic up. but here is the suzuiki that isnt giving me grief. even if it IS  suzuki  in the shed of death retirement and half finished things

[Travis398]

Have you had the tank off to make sure it is not the v/c gasket or grommets?

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