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Started by lawson, September 04, 2010, 03:20:23 AM

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lawson

Hey Guys - I would like to thank all for inputs and referrals.I chose the the 89 with 8500 miles for 4000.Looks like it just came out of box.But if i may- let me explain how this seller got his bike sold -there has to be a moral somewhere here.I have been looking for right 1989 FJ1200 since May but didn't place a WANTED AD until last week.Why -Before summer everything is priced high for junk and no one is Motivated to sell.Its september now and sellers are motivated to unload - so i thought.I placed WANTED AD here and another site.2 sellers emailed me and i found 2 other fjs on web that weren't for sale but i offered to buy.4 bikes now -4 sellers emailing me interested to sell.I emailed all 4 sellers back and left them MY CELL PHONE NUMBER to call me.Only one guy called me-the one with 8500 miles for 4000.In talking with him he said he could send detailed pictures but it would take a few days because of family business but will stay in contact by PHONE.No problem.Because i was also seriously looking at one of the bikes that wasn't originally for sale but i offered to buy -i just needed pictures from this guy.He said he wanted 3000.So i email him for pictures and to CALL ME.No response.Email him again -No response.This goes on for 3 days.The price didn't matter -it just had to be what i wanted.4000 for bike,700 to ship,400 tax and reg,150 for NOS Supertrapp that i found on ebay back in june.You do the math -it just had to be right bike.Still no emails or PHONE CALLS from 3000 seller.Today the seller of the 4000 bike calls me and says he sent me photos.Let me look at pics and i will CALL you back.The bike is exactly what i was looking for -CALLED him back -asked about history,mechanical condition - SOLD.I told him let me go to bank, get cashiers check,go to post office and send money via express mail.Give me about an hour -i will CALL YOU back.Did as i mentioned,CALLED him back said i sent off cashiers check and post office said you should have tomorrow by three.Let check clear bank then CALL ME back and i will then make arrangement for transporter you pickup.Done.I get off phone with seller and decide to check emails and who do you think now leaves me an email.The guy who i have been emailing for three days who is asking 3000 for his bike.His email reads as i quote"I have gotten all your emails but i am planning a long weekend and in no rush to sell bike - i will try to send pictures sometime next week and i feel 3000 is a fair price." My response email was as follows " i just now got your email but one hour before i sent a cashiers check for 4000 for another bike.This is why i leave a CELL PHONE NUMBER so as a buyer i am not held hostage waiting for sellers email-i have lost out before.IF some says SERIOUS BUYER - CASH IN HAND -Jump on it .Thanks for your time" I have bought many bikes,parts,stuff and have always found that If someone wants to do business  and i give a PHONE NUMBER and they will only reply thru email -You are getting stroked. Remember -"Buyers are liars and sellers are story tellers!"       

UJM

SMUG ALERT! http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103216

I was not going to be held hostage by a buyer either (I'm mentioned in that rambling message).

Glad you found your bike, even more so that you did not buy mine.

Quotes, you want quotes, OK, here are all the messages you left me on ADV Rider:

Quote08-29-2010, 10:36 AM
Hello h9r I just joined this site last night by googling Yamaha FJ and it lead me to your bike.In short i am from San Francisco area and have been searching since may of this year for the right fj.Looking thru ebay and craiglook-which shows every craigslist item in U.S.-I am looking for FJ that is as close to showroom condition clean as possible.Another words i don't want to completey restore another bike-I have 5 bikes now.If you are interested in selling your FJ you can email me or call my cell at ***** Mike.I am serious buyer with cash in hand. Thanks
Quote08-29-2010, 10:41 AM
Hello h9r - I think i forgot to leave you my email in last message.It is ***** and cell number is*****.Thanks
Quote08-31-2010, 08:57 PM
Hello Steve - Yes i am very interested.Please email me pictures.Like i mentioned i really don't want to restore another bike which involves repolishing lower legs on forks,all weathered aluminum foot controls repaint cracking and chipped tank and plastics etc...I am a painter by trait and have done the $80,000 harleys for people.I mention this not to inpress you but i know quality and am looking for RIGHT bike.Have cash in hand.I am not looking for deal-just the right one. If you can send pics of frame ,around frame area where header goes into head.This tells if frames' rusting,the forks,rotors and calipers,foot control areas,dash and overall closeups of bike.The photos that i saw shows a very clean bike but not closeup to see if everything is weather pitting.Also i don't know anything about bike - mileage,history,second gear issues,etc.My email ***** cell ***** Again not looking for deal.If you have what im looking for 3000 no problem and i will have it shipped to me - Thanks Mike
Quote09-01-2010, 06:32 PM
I sent you an email back after receiving yours.I am seriously interested - i just need pictures of closeup areas of lower forktubes, rotor and caliber,foot control areas,and dash.3000 is find with me.Like i mentioned in ad that i am not looking for a good deal - just has to be right bike that i won't have to tear apart and repolish all weather aluminum pieces ,pitting chrome and repaint etc.. You may email me directly ***** and feel free to call my cell anytime ***** Mike. I am serious buyer.Thanks again
Quote09-02-2010, 11:17 AM
Hello Steve - I sent you two emails yesterday and have not heard back from you.If you are having second thoughts that is ok just let me know.2 other bikes have surfaced yesterday as well.I placed an ad in forum on fjowners.com in the parts for sale section.A original owner 89 white 8500 miles for 4000 is suppose to send pics today and a 89 listed on ebay last night that also has ad on texas craigslist for 3400.I am still interested in looking at yours not because it is 3000 but because it looks very clean.In my ad over at fjowners.com i said i will pay 3000 to 4000 for a 3000 to 4000 condition bike.Again not looking for deal bike just right bike.If you still are interested i prefer you call me at ***** .I am 47 years old and like to direct talk and not all this todays eeemmmaaaiillliinngg.If i don't hear back from you soon i am assuming you decided to keep and going to make a decision on other 2 soon.Your bike looks great and i would understand why you may keep it.Thanks
QuoteYesterday, 09:43 AM
I noticed that you login and visit sites daily but i have not heard back from you.Bike for sale - yes or no -
QuoteYesterday, 06:45 PM
Hello Steve I just now got your emails.One hour before i sent the owner of other 89 with 8500 miles a cashiers check for 4000 and am having that shipped to me.I would of liked to of seen yours but the reason i give my phone number out is because as a buyer you are held hostage until people decide to email back.I have lost out before because of this.When someone says "cash in hand" and gives phone number,if you are serious seller - jump on it.Thanks again
Steve

Ride for one - Ride for all

Dan Filetti

Steve-

I seriously doubt that Mike wants his cell phone/ email posted out there.  

Anyway, seems to me he  described it like it was.  If he gives you his cell, and you want to do business with him/ follow-up, at very least stay in touch via email.  This kills me when contractors, electricians, plumbers etc, set a time and then simply fail to call when they're late, leaving me to wait when I could be doing something else.

You don't really want to sell him your bike, no problem, just tell him that up front.  If you did want to sell it, then you lost out because you did not stay in touch.

My $0.02

Dan
Live hardy, or go home. 

Marsh White

Quote from: Dan Filetti on September 04, 2010, 09:20:32 AM
Steve-

I seriously doubt that Mike wants his cell phone/ email posted out there.  

Dan

I agree - that was kind of a dick move.  I just edited out the phone numbers and e-mail addys.

Mark Olson

Mark O.
86 fj1200
sac ca.

                           " Get off your ass and Ride"

Travis398

I'm confused  :pardon: didn't the second post confirm the first?


When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Marsh White

Quote from: Travis398 on September 04, 2010, 01:13:42 PM
I'm confused  :pardon: didn't the second post confirm the first?

I thought the same thing.   :pardon:

mikeholzer

Quote from: Travis398 on September 04, 2010, 01:13:42 PM
I'm confused  :pardon: didn't the second post confirm the first?

Pretty much.

UJM

I was not needing to sell my FJ, and obviously was not in any hurry to sell it.

He contacted me on a site that I rarely, if ever, check the PM's. Whoopie.

I'm sure I came across as a jerk, I know the buyer sure did to me.



Steve

Ride for one - Ride for all

UJM

Quote from: Dan Filetti on September 04, 2010, 09:20:32 AM
Steve-

I seriously doubt that Mike wants his cell phone/ email posted out there.  

Anyway, seems to me he  described it like it was.  If he gives you his cell, and you want to do business with him/ follow-up, at very least stay in touch via email.  This kills me when contractors, electricians, plumbers etc, set a time and then simply fail to call when they're late, leaving me to wait when I could be doing something else.

You don't really want to sell him your bike, no problem, just tell him that up front.  If you did want to sell it, then you lost out because you did not stay in touch.

My $0.02

Dan

You are right, I should of "cleansed" his cell phone from my post, my error.

Why the guy was all of the sudden in such a hurry is beyond me, he stated he had been looking for a long time.

I found mine on Craigslist pretty darn quickly, and for $2500.00, not sure why he claimed he searched it for all these months to no avail.

Not a loss on my end, and he found what he wanted.
Steve

Ride for one - Ride for all

UJM

Quote from: Marsh White on September 04, 2010, 09:59:36 AM
Quote from: Dan Filetti on September 04, 2010, 09:20:32 AM
Steve-

I seriously doubt that Mike wants his cell phone/ email posted out there.  

Dan

I agree - that was kind of a dick move.  I just edited out the phone numbers and e-mail addys.

And your calling it a dick move makes your comment a dick move as well, Marsh.
Steve

Ride for one - Ride for all

UJM

Steve

Ride for one - Ride for all

simi_ed

Probably not a good move, calling the site owner a dick, especially when it was uncalled for.  Now, if he was acting a dick ... :drinks:
-- RKBA Regards,

Ed
===
Ed Thiele 
Simi Valley, CA -- I no longer have SoCal manners.
'89 FJ12C (Theft deterrent Silver/White)


- All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for
enough good men to do nothing.

- Edmund Burke

lawson

Hello Gentlemen -I wrote original post to let all know that i found bike and not to hang everyone up by sending more ads.Thanks. I also mentioned how to weedout serious buyers and sellers.In my "Blip"i never mentioned who it was.It could of been ficticious for all you know.But did all of you caught this-The guy exposes himself.He reveals himselfs as one of your junior members AND who he is on advrider.What a f***kin idiot.This is why i wrote what i did and what is out there.We are fellow motorcyclist -not buyers and sellers.With the first reply he summitted you will see i left phone number 5 times.His first email to me he said he would sell,wanted 3000,and would even delivery to Calif.I agreed to price but needed pictures then nothing -flat liner.Now he admits he real doesn't want to sell.And he remarks how i came across as a jerk -read my emails that he willingly posted.This is the type of seller that will hang you up while you have options,then options are gone -then they back out of deal.I just know to beat people at this game.By reading all post it seems that he is now trying to back pedal after outburst.There is a product on market called "Monkey Butt".I understand that when applied it will relieve you when your ass is chapped.

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