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Steve's 1985 FJ1100 restoration in San Diego

Started by STLanduyt, January 03, 2026, 08:57:22 PM

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STLanduyt

The carbs are with RPM, as already mentioned, and are currently soaking to dissolve "the ethanol gunk in the bowls and carb bodies" per RPM ... meanwhile I removed the exhaust pipes and de-rusted them using Rustoleum Rust Dissolver, which took off the rust and revealed a very shiny dark grey surface on the pipes, albeit with very tiny "pinpoints" of silver all over.

I had initially thought of painting the pipes, but am now thinking of leaving them in their current state.  Any thoughts or experiences out there on just leaving the pipes alone?

Steve


Waiex191

Quote from: STLanduyt on February 11, 2026, 07:44:30 PMI had initially thought of painting the pipes, but am now thinking of leaving them in their current state.  Any thoughts or experiences out there on just leaving the pipes alone?

Steve


Some of the guys have polished their pipes.  They are stainless underneath. 
This is Noel's picture:
Bryan
1989 FJ1200
1981 Suzuki GN400
Poplar Grove, IL
 

STLanduyt

The bare stainless pipes are beautiful!  That may be something I will consider in the future, but in the present I am inclined to leave them in their original color.

Another question that I have is how to improve the appearance of the weathered engine. 

The picture below shows a side view of the current exterior condition of the engine, which sat in a carport for many years and suffered serious weathering, as you can see.  The only surviving original gloss black paint on the engine is on the valve cover, which was protected by the tank.  The cooling fins are now bare metal.

What are the options for improving the appearance of the engine while it is on the bike beyond doing a thorough cleaning? 

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Steve





86FJNJ

Most of that looks topical like it would clean off with a sponge and some hot water with dawn dish soap. Then let it dry and spray it down with some foamy engine degreaser. Should look decently good after that. I'd suggest upgrading your oil filter to the RPM spin on oil filter setup. Better look and easier oil changes compared to that rusted stock oil filter bolt you have.

https://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=spinonfilteradapter&cat=39

The sprocket cover can be sanded down to raw aluminum and then painted with VHT Gloss black engine paint and cured in front of a space heater...will look brand new after that, which is what I did to mine.
1986 FJ1200 converted to Fuel Pump

FJ1200W

Quote from: STLanduyt on February 11, 2026, 07:44:30 PMI had initially thought of painting the pipes, but am now thinking of leaving them in their current state.  Any thoughts or experiences out there on just leaving the pipes alone?

Steve


Jet-Hot is a company I used to coat my header and I have been astounded by the product.
Their 2K product has a black crinkle finish on the outside, not sure it is not lifetime guaranteed, but it is tough. It does not damage by road debris and it clean up easily.
The inside was coated in a ceramic heat whatever substance, see pic #2.
The pipe is cool to the touch within moments of stopping, it works that well.
That heat has to go somewhere, I am not sure of the positives or negatives, I'll leave that to the experts here.
Bike runs great, pipe looks great, I'm happy, it was about $250 with shipping back in 2019 and worth every penny.
Look at pic #1, that's a lot of miles and several years ago.
Options are good.


https://www.jet-hot.com/offroad
Steve
Columbia, Missouri
USA

RPM - Robert

The Yamaha ignition cover and the other side crank cover we have new stock, as well as the clutch cover outer ring and the center part that says Yamaha.

The edges of the fins on the block and head were always raw aluminum. You can tape the frame off and get in there with some small scotch brite wheels in between the fins and scotch bright whatever you want to paint after a good ole pressure washing to get the big gunk off. After you spray it you can take a sanded block and clean up the edges of the fins to be raw aluminum like they should. Working up to a super fine sand paper so it doesn't look all gouged up.

Millietant

Quote from: RPM - Robert on February 13, 2026, 11:33:03 AMThe Yamaha ignition cover and the other side crank cover we have new stock, as well as the clutch cover outer ring and the center part that says Yamaha.

The edges of the fins on the block and head were always raw aluminum. You can tape the frame off and get in there with some small scotch brite wheels in between the fins and scotch bright whatever you want to paint after a good ole pressure washing to get the big gunk off. After you spray it you can take a sanded block and clean up the edges of the fins to be raw aluminum like they should. Working up to a super fine sand paper so it doesn't look all gouged up.

Great tips from Robert - I always think that bikes with re-painted engines, without the fin edges cleaned of paint, look bodged/half finished, like the owner couldn't be bothered to do the job properly.

That's just a quirk of my character and some people prefer not to have the unpainted edges (less likely to corrode early), but I'm not one of them   :sarcastic:

Over here in the UK, Simoniz Gloss Black Engine Lacquer comes highly recommended from owners.
Dean

'89 FJ 1200 3CV - owned from new.
'89 FJ 1200 3CV - no engine, tank, seat....parts bike for the future.
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - complete runner 2024 resto project
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - became a race bike, no longer with us.
'86 FJ 1200 1TX - sold to my boss to finance the '89 3CV I still own.

STLanduyt

I am in the middle of de-rusting and repainting the silver portion (front) of the frame on my 1985 FJ-1100 and I am planning the next phase of the project, which is cleaning and repainting the engine.  From the earlier posted photos you can see that the only solid black areas that have survived on the engine are the valve cover, the area beneath the fins, and the area around the gearbox, and those are very weathered.

While I appreciate the visual aesthetics of black painted fins and bare aluminum edges, does painting the fins adversely affect air cooling on the early FJ's?  I am inclined to do whatever is best for the longevity of the engine.

What are the alternatives to re-painting the fins black?

Can the exterior engine be successfully restored while it is in the frame, or is it necessary/best to remove the engine before repainting it?  The bike has been largely disassembled, but I have not removed the engine up to now.

Thanks for sharing your experiences and suggestions!

Steve

     

86FJNJ

Painting the fins won't impact engine temps. As long as youre riding you'll have plenty of air going over the engine to cool it.

If you want to give your FJ some extra cooling RPM sells a larger oil cooler kit. I installed it on my FJ because my original oil lines to my cooler were very corroded but I also wanted to have a bit more cooling because I ride a lot in summer and the FJ does get very hot.

While you have the tank off I suggest ensuring you have some proper heat shield stuck to the underside of your tank to keep some of that engine heat off the base of the tank. It gets real hot under there.

1986 FJ1200 converted to Fuel Pump

STLanduyt

Currently the FJ1100 is a suspended frame and engine in the garage awaiting paint.  So I am at a decision point...  paint the engine in place in the frame, or disassemble the upper half of the engine so the fins can be painted out of the frame, or remove the engine entirely from the frame for paint?

I am inclined to disassemble and paint the fins out of the frame, but thought that first asking for the pros/cons of experience was in order.

Steve

Pat Conlon

Why open the engine up? That's a lot of work.

 Why remove the cams, head and cylinder block just to paint the outside cylinder block?
For a needed cylinder hone and new rings or valve work, sure.....but not for just paint. 

Remove the engine or I would just remove the lower frame cradle and paint the engine in the frame.
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3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
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86FJNJ

I agree with pat, engine disassembly opens a can of worms. When bike is assembled with fairings you really only see the sides of the fins, I'd tape it off and spray it in the frame if you plan to ride it this season. You can always pull the engine next winter if you want.
1986 FJ1200 converted to Fuel Pump

STLanduyt

Great advice. Thanks for keeping me on track, Pat and 86FJNJ!

This morning Robert at RPM called saying that work on the carbs is completed and they will be shipped later this week along with the additional items that were ordered. 

It looks like it's time to transition into the completion phase of this project.

Steve