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Front brake spungy

Started by Chipmunk Breath, Today at 03:49:19 AM

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Chipmunk Breath

Hey all— my '84 1100 has a spongy front break lever pull. I replaced the master cylinder with new, bled both sides free of any bubbles however the pull just won't totally firm up. The lever pulls nearly to the grip. Brake pads have almost new thickness. I have not done anything with the calipers at this point. When I pull the lever though I do hear a mechanical sound coming from both of them. What am I missing?

Motofun

Is the replacement master an OEM or aftermarket?  Different cylinder diameters will affect the required stroke length.  Are the brake lines still the original squishy rubber lines?
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red

Chip,
These days, you can get banjo bleeder bolts, which install at the top of the hydraulic lines, next to the master cylinders. Banjo bleeder bolts cost about US$ 25.00 each at the right MC shops, and twice that at the wrong shops.  That new bleeder makes a real difference in hydraulic line bleeding. Use all new hydraulic washers, any time you disconnect hydraulic lines.
You can remove the last air from the line(s) if you tie the hand lever(s) tightly back to the handgrip overnight.
Cheers,
Red

P.S. Life is too short, and health is too valuable, to ride on cheap parade-duty tires.

Pat Conlon

Still have those 42 year old rubber brake lines?
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Sparky84

As suggested, tie that lever back and it seems there is still air in there somewhere.

More bleeding, more and more.
Jiggle that lever, don't pull it all the way it but just giving it multiple jiggles (and you are only just moving it a touch).
Perseverance is the key Chip  :good:

You are using new fluid ?
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2