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Oberon Clutch Slave Cylinder

Started by Millietant, August 30, 2025, 02:10:19 PM

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JohnnyTheCraneGuy

My guess would be that it's more tailored for the XJR platform. I was looking at the sprocket covers between our bikes and the XJR1300 doesn't have the mount for the slave cylinder on the cover. Still weird though because you would think the thickness on #10 would be the same as our mount, keeping the same bolt length imo. Not sure about the banjo bolt length though that's honestly something I also assumed would have stayed the same.
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2003 XVS650
1990 FJ1200 Fiona
1986 FJ1200 (Parts Bike)
1984 FJ1100 (1200 Swapped) Asuka
1984 FJ1100

Millietant

Quote from: Waiex191 on October 30, 2025, 11:02:32 PMI got it installed and bled tonight.  Haven't had a chance to ride it yet but it feels good when I work the lever.  I observed a couple of oddities in the kit.  First, they gave me 3 new stainless allen screws to install it - but the two long ones were about a cm too long.  So I had to use my old ugly ones.  Second, they gave me 3 seals and a spacer for the banjo connection to the slave.  But if I used the spacer and 3rd seal I would have only had about 1 thread in the slave, torqued to 26 n-m.  So instead I used my original banjo fitting and two new seals.  I'd post a picture of it installed, but it looks like Dean's.  Except for the fact that most of the paint is missing in that area.  I found the reservoir was low and it looks like the old slave was leaking.

Johnny is right, the 1700 kit is "universal" one, based on the XJR fitting, but lots of Yamaha's, including the FJ, use the same slave cylinder, hence the slightly oddball fitting bits.

I just put my mounting bolts on the wire wheel, gently, once in a while and cover them in ACF 50 before I refit them, seems to keep them looking good.  :good2:

Before I fitted the Oberon I cleaned, degreased and sanded my sprocket cover and oil filter housing, then painted then in Simoniz gloss black engine lacquer. Great paint and it keeps them looking nice and fresh,
Dean

'89 FJ 1200 3CV - owned from new.
'89 FJ 1200 3CV - no engine, tank, seat....parts bike for the future.
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - complete runner 2024 resto project
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - became a race bike, no longer with us.
'86 FJ 1200 1TX - sold to my boss to finance the '89 3CV I still own.

Waiex191

Did another adjustment on my bleed screws and went for a ride. Clutch feels good, but the engagement point is very different. Feels like it's not fully engaged until the lever is fully released to the stop. Is this normal?  Is there a better clutch MC to use with the Oberon?
Bryan
1989 FJ1200
1981 Suzuki GN400
Poplar Grove, IL
 

axiom-r

Quote from: JohnnyTheCraneGuy on October 31, 2025, 01:11:33 AMMy guess would be that it's more tailored for the XJR platform. I was looking at the sprocket covers between our bikes and the XJR1300 doesn't have the mount for the slave cylinder on the cover. Still weird though because you would think the thickness on #10 would be the same as our mount, keeping the same bolt length imo. Not sure about the banjo bolt length though that's honestly something I also assumed would have stayed the same.

The XJR 1200 sprocket covers are 8mm wider than the FJ unit but still have the slave mount on the cover like the FJ.

I did not even think about it while I was installing the Oberon Slave because it went right on for me and all the screw lengths were right. BUT - I do have a XJR 1200 cover on my FJ to allow for an offset sprocket.
1992 FJ1200 w 2007 R1 Front & Rear
1989 FJ1200
1985 FJ1100

Millietant

Quote from: Waiex191 on November 02, 2025, 03:59:11 PMDid another adjustment on my bleed screws and went for a ride. Clutch feels good, but the engagement point is very different. Feels like it's not fully engaged until the lever is fully released to the stop. Is this normal?  Is there a better clutch MC to use with the Oberon?

You could try the FJR master cylinder, they also come with a span adjustable lever so you can position the lever and take up Point where it's comfortable. I've not used my Oberon with a FJ master cylinder so can't comment.
Dean

'89 FJ 1200 3CV - owned from new.
'89 FJ 1200 3CV - no engine, tank, seat....parts bike for the future.
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - complete runner 2024 resto project
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - became a race bike, no longer with us.
'86 FJ 1200 1TX - sold to my boss to finance the '89 3CV I still own.

FJ1200W

I must be the exception as I have never had an issue with the stock slave cylinder.
Steve
Columbia, Missouri
USA

Waiex191

Quote from: Millietant on Yesterday at 05:59:03 AMYou could try the FJR master cylinder, they also come with a span adjustable lever so you can position the lever and take up Point where it's comfortable. I've not used my Oberon with a FJ master cylinder so can't comment.
Thanks Dean, I'll give that a try.  Steve, glad you are having good luck with the stock slave.  I've owned the bike since almost new and it gave me trouble early.
Bryan
1989 FJ1200
1981 Suzuki GN400
Poplar Grove, IL
 

Millietant

Quote from: FJ1200W on Yesterday at 07:30:33 AMI must be the exception as I have never had an issue with the stock slave cylinder.


I never really had an "issue" with mine, just since the bike clicked over 100,000 miles and slave cylinder maintenance periods were getting a bit closer together, I thought "why not give it a try" - plus, the big reason behind it all was................ MODITIS.

I've changed or upgraded the forks, brakes, 17" wheels, yokes, rear shock, FZ1 bars, FZ1 mirrors, Remus exhaust, modified fenders/mudguard, all the lights are LED, FJR clutch master cylinder, FZ1 brake master cylinder, span adjustable levers, all braided hydraulic lines, K & N air filter, iridium plugs (for longer life), the list goes on and on........

And I was getting the itch to change/improve something else (I'm not a fan of the spin on oil filter swap, just happy with the stock affair).

Probably the next thing I'll upgrade/change is the oil cooler, but maybe I'll wait for that until I decide to give the engine a big bore kit and some tuning - the only thing is, I'm loathe to take the engine apart while she's still running so well and reliably.

I'm really struggling to find any other worthwhile bits I can add/change on the bike to improve it, or make it more "my bike" (I've also already also got crash bars and a full Krauser luggage system, and a usb socket for charging "things" on the move).

Despite all the changes, 99% of other bikers think my bike is stock when they see it  :good2:
Dean

'89 FJ 1200 3CV - owned from new.
'89 FJ 1200 3CV - no engine, tank, seat....parts bike for the future.
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - complete runner 2024 resto project
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - became a race bike, no longer with us.
'86 FJ 1200 1TX - sold to my boss to finance the '89 3CV I still own.