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Started by T Legg, December 27, 2020, 11:14:26 AM

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T Legg

Sounds like you are way ahead of me Krusty . When you speak of tank badges and small parts I think of your Honda bikes. I have two cb750 k1's two k3's one cb750f and one cb 900f. There are a lot of small pieces on those to reproduce. Do you let the playdough dry and if so does it shrink?
T Legg

ribbert

Quote from: krusty on December 28, 2020, 04:51:52 AM
I've had success making small items by using Play Doh for a mold then using epoxy casting resin for the item.
The Play Doh can be re-used over and over.
For larger items and two piece molds I have used a silicone that dentists use to make molds of teeth. I have made a few tank badges that way.

Krusty, you can buy a 20kg bag of Gyprock Dental Plaster for less than $40, you could make a cast of the whole bike with that. As the name implies, it is very fine plaster for dental applications, available at all plater stores.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

krusty

Quote from: T Legg on December 28, 2020, 05:56:35 AM
Sounds like you are way ahead of me Krusty . When you speak of tank badges and small parts I think of your Honda bikes. I have two cb750 k1's two k3's one cb750f and one cb 900f. There are a lot of small pieces on those to reproduce. Do you let the playdough dry and if so does it shrink?
The Play doh stays soft and malleable (been a while since I last used that word) so it can be re-used multiple times. I found it handy for making switch knobs for 58/59 Honda Dreams which have a  very unusual shape and impossible to find. The tank badges were the small, round Honda and Suzuki items and the long Yamaha ones for DT/RT1s. This was in the early days before ebay and then all the aftermarket producers got in on the act. Much easier to buy repros these days. I joined ebay in 2000 and bought up a lot of early Honda parts from the US from sellers who were clearing out closed shops before David Silver et al.
91 FJ1200
84 FJ1100 x 2
85 FJ1100
89 GL1500
76 CB750F1
72 CB350F
63 C92 x 2
59 C76
62 C100
63 C100
60 Colleda 250TA x 3
63 Suzuki MD50
77 DT125E
77 DT175E x 2
79 DT250F

krusty

Quote from: ribbert on December 28, 2020, 06:26:19 AM
Quote from: krusty on December 28, 2020, 04:51:52 AM
I've had success making small items by using Play Doh for a mold then using epoxy casting resin for the item.
The Play Doh can be re-used over and over.
For larger items and two piece molds I have used a silicone that dentists use to make molds of teeth. I have made a few tank badges that way.

Krusty, you can buy a 20kg bag of Gyprock Dental Plaster for less than $40, you could make a cast of the whole bike with that. As the name implies, it is very fine plaster for dental applications, available at all plater stores.

Noel
I liked the silicone because it required no release agent and, when set, it was just pliable enough to easily remove the part once it had cured. On the other hand, it wasn't cheap. I used to buy it from a friend who was a dental technician.
91 FJ1200
84 FJ1100 x 2
85 FJ1100
89 GL1500
76 CB750F1
72 CB350F
63 C92 x 2
59 C76
62 C100
63 C100
60 Colleda 250TA x 3
63 Suzuki MD50
77 DT125E
77 DT175E x 2
79 DT250F

mr blackstock

When I had the same problem, I just used plastic from a car, for instance the side kick panels where your feet rest while driving, usually the plastic is flat and thick.  A jig saw and a file and 5 minutes, I had a new fuse cover.

I like real simple solutions....
Ignore the duct tape, unrelated solution...

Cheers, Gareth


Squeaky wheels always get the grease...

Yamaha FJ1100 1985

T Legg

I contemplated using wood at one point. Here is a picture of the products I used. I made a second mold and tried to make two more covers but the new mold didn't come out level so I couldn't pour the resin deep enough. The other one came out good so now I have a spare. The mold material I used is mediocre my fingerprints remain from mixing the two parts together and show up on the work as slight ridges.ill try liquid silicone molding material next time. The crappy looking black fuse cover was my first failed attempt using plastifix.
T Legg

JohnnyTheCraneGuy

Just had mine fly off yesterday  :Facepalm:
Current
2003 XVS650
1986 FJ1200
1984 FJ1100

red

Just a note on 3D printing:

My local public library has 3D printers, and they will print anything smaller that a shoebox for cheap, in a variety of plastic/Nylon materials.  Europe has a large FJ following, and they are building entire libraries of 3D files for printing, FJ and otherwise.  If I can give the library a .STL file, they will do all the rest, for the cost of the material.  Never mess with a librarian, they DEAL in knowledge.
  :yes: 
There are websites where you can learn about 3D printing, and editing .STL files on-line, usually by a free log-in.  Most 3D scanners will produce .STL files as outputs, ready to print.  With a few mouse clicks, you can produce .STL files for mirror-image parts, Left and Right.
Cheers,
Red

P.S. Life is too short, and health is too valuable, to ride on cheap parade-duty tires.

Sparky84

Got no idea where to start looking for 3D libraries for STL files.

But that sounds great that the libraries can print if you have the file, love to find a file for the fuse cover if anyone knows.

I'm still unsure how 1 can just fly off as it fixed with a screw to hold fairing in position.
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

T Legg

I know in my case I had just put the fairing back on and forgot to tighten the screw.
 My daughter just bought a 3D printer. If any one comes up with program for the fuse cover I would ask her to make several. In the mean time I'll keep using my molded copy. I'd like to be able to make the air scoop inner pieces for the 1100's also.
T Legg

fj1289

Quote from: T Legg on February 25, 2025, 12:30:18 PM... I'd like to be able to make the air scoop inner pieces for the 1100's also.

If you are talking about the "snorkel" piece - I'm pretty sure they are the same between 1100 and 1200's

T Legg

Quote from: fj1289 on February 25, 2025, 02:08:35 PM
Quote from: T Legg on February 25, 2025, 12:30:18 PM... I'd like to be able to make the air scoop inner pieces for the 1100's also.

If you are talking about the "snorkel" piece - I'm pretty sure they are the same between 1100 and 1200's
No. There is a piece that snaps into the scoop portion to guide the air flow better. It's only on the 1100's. There is left and right version.
T Legg

red

Quote from: Sparky84 on February 25, 2025, 02:21:37 AMGot no idea where to start looking for 3D libraries for STL files.
But that sounds great that the libraries can print if you have the file, love to find a file for the fuse cover if anyone knows.
Sparky,

I would suggest that you get into contact with some European FJ clubs/ forums to find the parts libraries they are collecting. There is a good following for the FJ there.  I was not the guy, but I remember somebody here found those good resources, for  printed parts files.
Cheers,
Red

P.S. Life is too short, and health is too valuable, to ride on cheap parade-duty tires.

fj1289

Quote from: T Legg on February 25, 2025, 05:34:26 PM
Quote from: fj1289 on February 25, 2025, 02:08:35 PM
Quote from: T Legg on February 25, 2025, 12:30:18 PM... I'd like to be able to make the air scoop inner pieces for the 1100's also.

If you are talking about the "snorkel" piece - I'm pretty sure they are the same between 1100 and 1200's
No. There is a piece that snaps into the scoop portion to guide the air flow better. It's only on the 1100's. There is left and right version.

Ahhhhh - I remember what you are talking about!

JohnnyTheCraneGuy

Current
2003 XVS650
1986 FJ1200
1984 FJ1100