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Fuel line replacement; The sequel

Started by Tuned forks, August 16, 2019, 11:17:17 PM

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Tuned forks

Tor-King started a topic back in March of 2017 regarding sourcing fuel line for our FJ's.  The results seemed to be limited and not entirely adequate.  Are there updates?  What are members using for replacing their fuel lines?  Specifically I am interested in the fuel pump models but all rubber fuel line discussion is welcome.

Joe
1990 FJ1200-the reacher
1990 FZR 1000-crotch rocket

ribbert

Quote from: Tuned forks on August 16, 2019, 11:17:17 PM
Tor-King started a topic back in March of 2017 regarding sourcing fuel line for our FJ's.  The results seemed to be limited and not entirely adequate.  Are there updates?  What are members using for replacing their fuel lines?  Specifically I am interested in the fuel pump models but all rubber fuel line discussion is welcome.

Joe

Joe, I don't know why you think ...."The results seemed to be limited and not entirely adequate".... this topic has been covered many times and the answer is simple and straight forward. Just go to any auto accessory store and buy a metre of fuel line (low or high pressure, doesn't matter, but low is all you need) and make sure you use proper fuel line clips, not hose clamps.

That's it! There is nothing FJ specific about fuel line.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

CutterBill

Quote from: ribbert on August 17, 2019, 03:46:02 AM...There is nothing FJ specific about fuel line.
Except that it's metric. Noel, here in the US, it can be difficult to find metric fuel hose at the local auto parts store. However, Amazon has it...
Bill
Never Slow Down, Never Grow Old.

Current Stable:                                                     
FJ1100                                              
FJ1200 (4)
1999 Yamaha WR400 (street-legal)
2015 Super Tenere
2002 Honda Goldwing

Starquest

I use 3/8 fuel injection hose from autozone.I routed like the sticker on the aibox.After riding 6 months,I took it off for carburetor maintenance and looks like preformed, like oem.

T Legg

I also use 3/8" fuel line on my FJ1100's and it works fine.I don't know if fuel pump models need a different size.The 3/8" line is slightly larger than the OEM lines.
T Legg

ribbert

Quote from: CutterBill on August 17, 2019, 08:39:42 AM
Quote from: ribbert on August 17, 2019, 03:46:02 AM...There is nothing FJ specific about fuel line.
Except that it's metric. Noel, here in the US, it can be difficult to find metric fuel hose at the local auto parts store. However, Amazon has it...
Bill

I'm surprised at that. I imagine the US has big fleet or European, Japanese and Korean cars and bikes, plant, small engine devices, marine, aircraft etc basically anything made anywhere in the world except the US.

Does anyone know to which side Boeing dresses? American made but global market.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

Starquest

The 3/8 fuel hose is 9.5 mm in id diameter. Looks like is bigger because has thicker wall than the 10mm oem fuel hose.

ZOA NOM

I got my replacement fuel line at the Yamaha dealer. They had a box of it that they cut a length from.
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

ribbert

Quote from: ZOA NOM on August 19, 2019, 07:23:56 AM
I got my replacement fuel line at the Yamaha dealer. They had a box of it that they cut a length from.

You're a gamer man than me. I've never heard of anyone buying fuel line from a dealer. At spare parts prices their box could have been sitting for years.

To be fair though, I know nothing about fuel systems so maybe we should wait for Pat to chime in, he knows all about them, especially the gravity fed bikes and if I'm wrong, so be it, always happy to learn from a pro.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

ZOA NOM

How would you determine the age of fuel line you purchased elsewhere?

Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

ribbert

Quote from: ZOA NOM on August 19, 2019, 08:30:27 AM
How would you determine the age of fuel line you purchased elsewhere?



It has a feel, flex and a smell to it. If unfamiliar with that, anywhere that is likely to have high turnover is a good bet. If metric hose is a slow mover in the US, as Cutter Bill suggested, go to a fuel injection specialist, they are stand alone specialist shops or ring a supplier and ask who buys regularly from them.

I have experienced new fuel line that has 'turned'.

As I said the other day, I would be surprised if metric hose is that slow considering the amount of Jap and European vehicles and machinery are over there.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

ZOA NOM

This could be determined similarly at a dealer, could it not? I would expect good turnover at a dealer.
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

ribbert

Quote from: ZOA NOM on August 19, 2019, 09:51:03 AM
This could be determined similarly at a dealer, could it not? I would expect good turnover at a dealer.

You are absolutely correct, it could, but why would you go to dealer to get fuel line (unless you were already heading there to grab some OEM air for your tyres  :biggrin:)

As for expecting good turnover at a dealer, the workshop and the parts dept would in all likelihood have separate supplies and it would depend whether the hose was bagged or bulk. Any dealer that has a spares dept is working on vehicles too new to need fuel line.  It would be way more expensive but you're not buying much so it probably wouldn't matter.

Rick, at the end of the day it doesn't matter if you buy it at McDonalds, as long as it's not really old and Pat's considers the ID big enough, you're good to go. Im sure the hose you bought will outlast you.

I think we're done here.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

ZOA NOM

Nope, not done. I don't live in a place teeming with motorcycle (or auto for that matter) parts stores. The dealer is a 20-minute drive, and I knew they would have the right stuff. I also knew that their fuel line would exhibit the same properties you mention (feel, flex, smell), and I would be able to discern whether or not to purchase it. They also have the appropriate Yamaha fuel filters, with the proper size nipples, which were the culprit in my previous bike's destruction. But, I do appreciate your input. :)
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

JPaganel

Quote from: Tuned forks on August 16, 2019, 11:17:17 PM
Tor-King started a topic back in March of 2017 regarding sourcing fuel line for our FJ's.  The results seemed to be limited and not entirely adequate.  Are there updates?  What are members using for replacing their fuel lines?  Specifically I am interested in the fuel pump models but all rubber fuel line discussion is welcome.

Joe

I bought some 10mm line for my 86 on eBay. The only real problem with it is that it isn't formed, so I found a spring to fit over it to make the bends without collapsing.

Fuel pump line looks like it can be substituted with any FI line that is close enough in size - there are no weird bends and you can use normal thick wall stuff.
1993 FJ1200 ABS

1984 FJ600, up on blocks

1986 FJ1200, flaming wreck, repaired and sold
1986 FJ1200, repaired, ridden, sold


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