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Replacing diaphragm in carbs

Started by TomJK, July 30, 2019, 01:16:55 AM

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TomJK

Hi
Just to show one way of putting in new diaphragm , I ordered types like the original, so you need a rubber ring and clip (seegerring) to hold the new part, when you cut of the original plastic retainer...
See pics, got a few banks of carbs from the scrapyards, to clean and sell on, costing between 30 and 50 dollar per bank...

https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipNgaqZDiJtAFdpeJ1ZLO_owezTAzXO0YZW_nUMT

Cheers, Tom.
Past bikes : BMWR90-S,BMW R100CS, Ducati 900SD, Kawasaki GPZ600,Yamaha FJ1200,Kawasaki ZZR 1100 (4x),Kawasaki ZZR1200, Honda CBR1100XXX,Yamaha Thunderace, Kawasaki ZX10R (3X),
Aprillia Falco,Honda CBR600F4I, bikes today : Kawasaki ZX10R (C1, the best!),Yamaha FJ1200, soon to come Kawasaki Z900.....

JPaganel

Quote404. That's an error.

The requested URL was not found on this server. That's all we know.

Your link doesn't work.
1993 FJ1200 ABS

1984 FJ600, up on blocks

1986 FJ1200, flaming wreck, repaired and sold
1986 FJ1200, repaired, ridden, sold


I don't want a pickle
I just want to ride my motorcicle

TomJK

Past bikes : BMWR90-S,BMW R100CS, Ducati 900SD, Kawasaki GPZ600,Yamaha FJ1200,Kawasaki ZZR 1100 (4x),Kawasaki ZZR1200, Honda CBR1100XXX,Yamaha Thunderace, Kawasaki ZX10R (3X),
Aprillia Falco,Honda CBR600F4I, bikes today : Kawasaki ZX10R (C1, the best!),Yamaha FJ1200, soon to come Kawasaki Z900.....

Pat Conlon

1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

TomJK

Are you sure, on the UK website it seems to work...
Past bikes : BMWR90-S,BMW R100CS, Ducati 900SD, Kawasaki GPZ600,Yamaha FJ1200,Kawasaki ZZR 1100 (4x),Kawasaki ZZR1200, Honda CBR1100XXX,Yamaha Thunderace, Kawasaki ZX10R (3X),
Aprillia Falco,Honda CBR600F4I, bikes today : Kawasaki ZX10R (C1, the best!),Yamaha FJ1200, soon to come Kawasaki Z900.....

roverfj1200

1988 FJ1200
1991 FJ1200

Richard.

Tuned forks

I can see them from the second link.

Joe
1990 FJ1200-the reacher
1990 FZR 1000-crotch rocket

ryanschoebel

I can see from the second. He is Using a large circlip to hold the diaphragm in place.
1985 FJ1100-- Atlas (SOLD)
1984 FJ1100-- Storm

Pat Conlon

1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

JPaganel

Here's what the pictures look like.

1993 FJ1200 ABS

1984 FJ600, up on blocks

1986 FJ1200, flaming wreck, repaired and sold
1986 FJ1200, repaired, ridden, sold


I don't want a pickle
I just want to ride my motorcicle

Pat Conlon

I recall several years ago RPM Randy tried some aftermarket diaphragms only to find that under full throttle (full vacuum) the carb slides did not raise all the way up. The thicker, less pliable material was the reason.
It would be interesting to see how these performed. You would need to put the bike on a load Dyno and look at the slides under full throttle.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

TomJK

Hi
The diaphragms used are very light and feel the same as the original, 5,1 gram, as soon as I've put all of them in, I will test them, NOT on a Dyno, I hate that...but on the German Autobahn and see what it does.
Cheers, Tom.
Past bikes : BMWR90-S,BMW R100CS, Ducati 900SD, Kawasaki GPZ600,Yamaha FJ1200,Kawasaki ZZR 1100 (4x),Kawasaki ZZR1200, Honda CBR1100XXX,Yamaha Thunderace, Kawasaki ZX10R (3X),
Aprillia Falco,Honda CBR600F4I, bikes today : Kawasaki ZX10R (C1, the best!),Yamaha FJ1200, soon to come Kawasaki Z900.....

racerrad8

Quote from: TomJK on August 01, 2019, 01:54:10 AM
Hi
The diaphragms used are very light and feel the same as the original, 5,1 gram, as soon as I've put all of them in, I will test them, NOT on a Dyno, I hate that...but on the German Autobahn and see what it does.
Cheers, Tom.

Tom, what brand of membrane did you obtain?

I did some testing on the JBM replacements in Garth's carbs many years ago. I found they did not have the same stroke as the original and would not allow the needle to lift fully. The lack of travel put the bike in a lean condition at 3/4 to wide open throttle. The full topic is is over in the carb files: http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=5340.0

Here is photo of what I am referring too


Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

TomJK

Hi Randy

I could not find a name, I will ask supplier, but they are very similar to the originals, travel is the same, I will check how my FJ goes as soon as they are all done, waiting for Viton flat washers to put under the clip to hold the thing in place....

Cheers, Tom.
Past bikes : BMWR90-S,BMW R100CS, Ducati 900SD, Kawasaki GPZ600,Yamaha FJ1200,Kawasaki ZZR 1100 (4x),Kawasaki ZZR1200, Honda CBR1100XXX,Yamaha Thunderace, Kawasaki ZX10R (3X),
Aprillia Falco,Honda CBR600F4I, bikes today : Kawasaki ZX10R (C1, the best!),Yamaha FJ1200, soon to come Kawasaki Z900.....