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Horsepower Vs. Weight

Started by racerrad8, March 24, 2019, 01:01:11 PM

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racerrad8

So, with the recent question about horsepower gains of installing the RPM exhaust over stock and the light-hearted gains posted, it did get me thinking.

Even if I had a dyno, some of the gains cannot be measured with the dyno. Those gains are Horsepower Vs. Weight.

Yes, the dyno will give you the engine output to the rear wheel, but what about reducing weight and the rear wheel has less weight to propel. So, I started doing some reading on this subject which is covered widely on the internet.

But lets talk FJ specifics numbers. I picked the 89-90 FJ1200W model for the calculations from this data table: https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/yamaha_fj1200%20%2089.htm

Rear Wheel Horse Power - 112.5
Wet Curb Weight            - 571

By dividing the weight by the horsepower, I was able to determine the amount of horsepower for each pound of weight. (Power to Weight Ratio)

X=Weight/Horsepower     X=571/112.5     X=5.1 Power to Weight ratio.

I then took the weight reduction of 22 pounds by removing the stock exhaust system and installing the RPM Exhaust.

571-22= 549 pounds

X=Weight/Horsepower     X=549/112.5     X=4.9 Power to Weight ratio.

So, if we take the original weight and apply the new Power to Weight ratio, we come up with the horsepower gain by reducing the overall weight.

571/4.9=116.5 Horsepower

New Horsepower - 116.5
O.E. Horsepower - 112.5

So, the net gain of just bolting on the RPM Exhaust system over the stock system is 4 horsepower just in weight reduction.

Hopefully someday someone will post the actual horsepower improvements of the engine output to the rear wheel. That number can then be combined with the 4hp gain of the simple weight reduction.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

ZOA NOM

That's some nerd shit right there! Nice!
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

Old Rider

This is why i always ride with almost  emty gastank !  :mocking: now from jokes to guns i wonder how much horsepower i will get if i polish and port the head on the fj? :scratch_one-s_head:

Pat Conlon

All things kept equal, not much...
You would be better served by unshrouding the valves.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

giantkiller

So if I have 163 hp.and I shaved off about 42lb. How much horse power do I have now... I guess it doesn't matter I weigh 264lbs

86 fj1350r
86 fj1380t turbo drag toy (soon)
87 fj1200 865 miles crashed for parts
89 fj1200 touring 2up
87 fzr1000 crashed
87 fzr750r Human Race teams world endurance champion
93 fzr600 Vance n hines ltd for sale
Custom chopper I built
Mini chopper I built for my daughter just like the big 1

giantkiller

Some day I'll get one of your exhaust systems. Just don't have any spare cash right now.
86 fj1350r
86 fj1380t turbo drag toy (soon)
87 fj1200 865 miles crashed for parts
89 fj1200 touring 2up
87 fzr1000 crashed
87 fzr750r Human Race teams world endurance champion
93 fzr600 Vance n hines ltd for sale
Custom chopper I built
Mini chopper I built for my daughter just like the big 1

ZOA NOM

Ive heard 10lbs = 1hp, so you're up 4.2hp.
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

racerrad8

Quote from: giantkiller on March 24, 2019, 04:59:52 PM
So if I have 163 hp.and I shaved off about 42lb. How much horse power do I have now... I guess it doesn't matter I weigh 264lbs



Original weight 571 - 42 = 529

O.E Weight    571/163 = 3.5 power to weight ratio
Light Weight  529/163 = 3.24 power to weight ratio


Now, divide the original curb weight by the new PTW ratio.

571/3.24 = 176.23 horsepower with the bike weight reduction listed

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

racerrad8

Quote from: ZOA NOM on March 24, 2019, 05:04:40 PM
Ive heard 10lbs = 1hp, so you're up 4.2hp.

Buddy, you have to do the math...

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

ZOA NOM

Quote from: racerrad8 on March 24, 2019, 05:20:26 PM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on March 24, 2019, 05:04:40 PM
Ive heard 10lbs = 1hp, so you're up 4.2hp.

Buddy, you have to do the math...

Randy - RPM

Of course you do.
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca