An Electric trial’s bike? Yamaha thinks so...

[Pat Conlon]

Remains to be seen if it's competitive.

https://newatlas.com/yamaha-ty-e-electric-trials-bike/53938/

[Troyskie]

Well, Yamaha are an innovator.

If we can get off fossil fuel to generate power electric is the future.

[FJmonkey]

I electric is perfect for that sport. Light, controllable torque, no gears.

[Motofun]

If we can get off fossil fuel to generate power electric is the future.

Already have....it's called nuclear.   

[ZOA NOM]

Well, Yamaha are an innovator.

If we can get off fossil fuel to generate power electric is the future.

Never gonna happen. Get over it. Electric is a pipe dream.

[red]

Well, Yamaha are an innovator.If we can get off fossil fuel to generate power electric is the future.

Never gonna happen. Get over it. Electric is a pipe dream.

Rick,

Yeah, no clutch, no transmission, no shifting, motor with ONE moving part, not much noise . . .
Add a hydrogen fuel cell in the top box for unlimited range.  
Crack hydrogen from water with a homestead windmill or solar, never pay for vehicle fuel again . . .
Sounds hopeless.    

However, Land Speed Record, all production stock motorcycles (also Pikes Peak), gas or electric: the Lightning LS-218
http://lightningmotorcycle.com/
Lightning Strike (taking reservations)
https://store.lightningmotorcycle.com/t/lightning-strike-reservation
Zero motorcycles
https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/
HD-LiveWire
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/motorcycles/future-vehicles/livewire.html#intcmp_HP_BB1_livewire
Ducati
https://electrek.co/2019/01/19/electric-ducati-motorcycle/

[ZOA NOM]

You forgot how much coal is needed to generate that electricity. Or are you gonna put windfarms on every acre in the country? Let's see how many electric vehicles are still running if the subsidies dry up. Simple math should tell you electric vehicles just aren't ever gonna be anything but a novelty.

[Pat Conlon]

Rick loves his "beautiful clean coal" like a true Trumpster.

[ZOA NOM]

Rick loves his "beautiful clean coal" like a true Trumpster.

Nah, but I know basic math.

[red]

You forgot how much coal is needed to generate that electricity. Or are you gonna put windfarms on every acre in the country? Let's see how many electric vehicles are still running if the subsidies dry up. Simple math should tell you electric vehicles just aren't ever gonna be anything but a novelty.

Rick,

Nope, not at all.  A homestead windmill is quite a modest installation.  Solar cells gets better every six months, and if you want the power as hydrogen, PBS-TV/NOVA showed an "artificial leaf" that you put into water, add sunlight, and the gasses come foaming off like an Alka-Selter tablet with no moving parts.  When I lived in Denver (where it's about a 2 on a scale of 10 for wind-power), the Denver Post reported on a guy cracking water (in the 1970s) with a homestead windmill, and getting more hydrogen than his car burned every month.  He used a "carb" like the CNG cars use, only set up for hydrogen.  The hydrolyzers of today are much better than his "tub of water and electrodes," but he just didn't care about the inefficiencies he had, because his power came free, from the wind, and he was getting all the hydrogen fuel his car could use. 

I do not advocate burning coal for power.  If there were no coal-fired power plants now, you could never get any sane person to approve the construction of one, because of the coal mining, air pollution, inefficient conversion of heat into electricity, and solid toxic waste products.

I have another joy in my life besides the FJ, and that is hang gliding.  I have seen first hand the reality of our air.  I really want people to ignore those "weather forecasts" on TV that show a huge lie every night; we simply do not have a cartoonish "ocean of air" around this planet, which is somehow too big to become polluted.  An accurate scale model of our air would be an EXTREMELY thin coat of varnish on a basketball, with all of the high points almost poking out into space.  Look at the smoke from forest fires, as seen in photos from the Space Station, and you will see how very shallow our "ocean of air" is, in real life.  We need to take care of this place.  Fossil fuels are not helping.

[Pat Conlon]

We've been thru this with Rick a few times now. His mind is made up. He's just toeing his party's line.
Curious that Trumpsters love "beautiful clean coal" that generates electricity yet hate electric cars that use electricity......


Never figured that one out....

[ZOA NOM]

Yeah, I'm a lost cause. I'll leave you to figure out where the hell you're gonna pile up all the dead batteries that lurk in your future.

[Pat Conlon]

Flow batteries look interesting.

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/new-refillable-batteries-could-fuel-electric-car-revolution-ncna974556

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/new-path-to-market-for-flow-batteries-rent-an-electrolyte#gs.Df7VHPWZ

We've had 120 years to develop the ICE, electric car battery development is still relatively young.

You would think a Trumpster would do everything he could do to protect American Industry and jobs for Americans. Do everything they can do to give America a fucking chance at the global market....but alas, not with electric car development.
The Trumpsters will just give it to China. Another opportunity lost.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/electric-cars-chinas-drive-to-dominate-the-industry-60-minutes/

That's another thing I can't figure out...

[ribbert]

Nah, but I know basic math.

.....and a Trumpster?  Come on Rick, choose one or the other, you can't be both  


Noel

[Motofun]

And we've had clean nuclear for over 60 years!  Tremendously high energy density.  Extremely small environmental footprint.  No atmospheric emmissions.  Generates 20% of US power already (75% in France).  Technology is already 3rd generation and understood.  YET, the green weenies still don't like it....go figure.