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Started by ZOA NOM, February 01, 2019, 04:59:13 PM

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ZOA NOM

February 01, 2019, 04:59:13 PM
Anybody have this issue? There is no change in braking, and it doesn't feel slippery like brake fluid. It appears to be ambient moisture. The hose came with the brake master, so I assumed it was meant for that purpose.



Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

racerrad8

#1
February 01, 2019, 07:02:57 PM
Lick it...




















































Does it taste like brake fluid or moisture condensation?

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

red

#2
February 01, 2019, 07:03:41 PM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on February 01, 2019, 04:59:13 PM
Anybody have this issue? There is no change in braking, and it doesn't feel slippery like brake fluid. It appears to be ambient moisture. The hose came with the brake master, so I assumed it was meant for that purpose.
ZOA NOM,

Haven't seen that before, so no real help.  I would keep a small white cloth handy (maybe the size of your palm), and keep using that same cloth to wipe down the hose.  If those droplets are anything more than condensation, after a few days the cloth will feel and smell like brake fluid.  If yes, I would replace that rubber tubing with dedicated brake-fluid hose, because if it seeps fluid out, it will be letting moisture seep in.

I would send those pictures to the manufacturer, and see what they may say.
Cheers,
Red
P.S. Life is too short, and health is too valuable, to ride on cheap parade-duty tires.

balky1

#3
February 02, 2019, 02:46:43 AM
If the bike was in a cold place and then suddenly got much warmer, it is normal to expect condensation in such places where a fluid is. Like you take a beer out of a fridge during summer.


FJ 1100, 1985, sold
FJR 1300, 2009

ZOA NOM

#4
February 02, 2019, 07:27:32 AM
Quote from: balky1 on February 02, 2019, 02:46:43 AM
If the bike was in a cold place and then suddenly got much warmer, it is normal to expect condensation in such places where a fluid is. Like you take a beer out of a fridge during summer.

That's what I was thinking. The bike is kept in a garage, but it has been pretty cold lately.

Randy - I just don't have words...
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

ZOA NOM

#5
February 02, 2019, 07:33:45 AM
Interesting thread...

I think I'll try a different hose.
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

ribbert

#6
February 03, 2019, 05:47:55 AM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on February 01, 2019, 04:59:13 PM

Anybody have this issue? There is no change in braking, and it doesn't feel slippery like brake fluid. It appears to be ambient moisture. The hose came with the brake master, so I assumed it was meant for that purpose.


Brake line sweating is far more common than it should be. The most common reason I've found is the use of "oil and fuel resistant" hose. that is, fuel line. This won't work with brake fluid. A surprising number of shops sell line not fit for purpose.
Rick, change the hose for brake line specific stuff and you'll be good to go.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

ZOA NOM

#7
February 03, 2019, 12:02:57 PM
Quote from: ribbert on February 03, 2019, 05:47:55 AM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on February 01, 2019, 04:59:13 PM

Anybody have this issue? There is no change in braking, and it doesn't feel slippery like brake fluid. It appears to be ambient moisture. The hose came with the brake master, so I assumed it was meant for that purpose.


Brake line sweating is far more common than it should be. The most common reason I've found is the use of "oil and fuel resistant" hose. that is, fuel line. This won't work with brake fluid. A surprising number of shops sell line not fit for purpose.
Rick, change the hose for brake line specific stuff and you'll be good to go.

Noel

Yeah, that makes sense. I'm just glad it hasn't compromised the braking. I like the radial master.
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

racerrad8

#8
February 03, 2019, 04:23:32 PM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on February 02, 2019, 07:27:32 AM
Randy - I just don't have words...

Seriously....

Give it the taste test. I am sure you have tasted brake fluid before, I know I have. If it is just condensation then it will be tasteless...

Geez, I didn't know you had gotten to snow flake sensitivity. :Facepalm:

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

Tuned forks

#9
February 03, 2019, 06:00:50 PM
Oh man.  Popcorn time. (popcorn)

Joe
1990 FJ1200-the reacher
1990 FZR 1000-crotch rocket

ZOA NOM

#10
February 04, 2019, 09:30:35 AM
Quote from: racerrad8 on February 03, 2019, 04:23:32 PM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on February 02, 2019, 07:27:32 AM
Randy - I just don't have words...

Seriously....

Give it the taste test. I am sure you have tasted brake fluid before, I know I have. If it is just condensation then it will be tasteless...

Geez, I didn't know you had gotten to snow flake sensitivity. :Facepalm:

Randy - RPM

I don't think I can leave my bike there anymore, Randy. I worry that you're putting your tongue where it doesn't belong...
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

Millietant

#11
February 04, 2019, 11:36:40 AM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on February 04, 2019, 09:30:35 AM
Quote from: racerrad8 on February 03, 2019, 04:23:32 PM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on February 02, 2019, 07:27:32 AM
Randy - I just don't have words...

Seriously....

Give it the taste test. I am sure you have tasted brake fluid before, I know I have. If it is just condensation then it will be tasteless...

Geez, I didn't know you had gotten to snow flake sensitivity. :Facepalm:

Randy - RPM

I don't think I can leave my bike there anymore, Randy. I worry that you're putting your tongue where it doesn't belong...

It's not his tongue I'd be worried about  :biggrin: :biggrin:
Dean

'89 FJ 1200 3CV - owned from new.
'89 FJ 1200 3CV - no engine, tank, seat....parts bike for the future.
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - complete runner 2024 resto project
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - became a race bike, no longer with us.
'86 FJ 1200 1TX - sold to my boss to finance the '89 3CV I still own.

ZOA NOM

#12
February 04, 2019, 01:20:23 PM
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

ryanschoebel

#13
February 04, 2019, 01:54:52 PM
 :rofl: (popcorn)
1985 FJ1100-- Atlas (SOLD)
1984 FJ1100-- Storm

racerrad8

#14
February 11, 2019, 04:57:01 PM
Well, did you ever man up  to determine if it was condensation or brake fluid?

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM
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