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Windshield types vs Helmet buffeting

Started by aviationfred, December 12, 2018, 04:59:37 AM

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aviationfred

We have not had a good Windshield discussion in a few years. Recently a few newer members have inquired about windshields that are good for Touring, or create less helmet noise, or less helmet buffeting.

There is no easy and definitive answer.

Some factors to consider are... A riders height, Stock seat, Corbin seat or modified seat, RPM handle bar risers, stock handle bars, LSL solid handle bar conversion, and all combinations thereof.

Then there is the generation of FJ that you have. Each generation of the 1200, the main fairing got wider and taller.

As an example, I am 5' 7" tall. The only windscreen that has caused me issues is the OEM windscreen on the 1989 model (3CV). At 70mph the wind catches me right at chin level and tries to lift my helmet.

Manufacturers and models in photographic order

1. Zero Gravity, 4" longer
2. MRA Vario-Touring
3. Ermax Tall
4. Honda CBR1100xx double bubble custom
5. MRA Touring
6. MRA Touring
7. Honda CBR1100xx Large double bubble
8. Power Bronze Tall Flip.

Unfortunately finding a windscreen that you like and performs the best under the riding conditions that you prefer is trial and error and can be quite expensive. The MRA Vario-Touring is in the $180.00 range.

For my 1989 FJ, my personal favorite windscreen that gave the best over all performance in all types of riding and weather conditions was the Ermax tall. I will be ordering one for my 1995 later this winter.


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

ribbert

Quote from: aviationfred on December 12, 2018, 04:59:37 AM

Manufacturers and models in order

1. Zero Gravity, 4" longer
2. MRA Vario-Touring
3. Ermax Tall
4. Honda CBR1100xx double bubble custom
5. MRA Touring
6. MRA Touring
7. Honda CBR1100xx Large double bubble
8. Power Bronze Tall Flip.
9. Eagle

Fred
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

aviationfred

Quote from: ribbert on December 12, 2018, 05:55:49 AM
Quote from: aviationfred on December 12, 2018, 04:59:37 AM

Manufacturers and models in order

1. Zero Gravity, 4" longer
2. MRA Vario-Touring
3. Ermax Tall
4. Honda CBR1100xx double bubble custom
5. MRA Touring
6. MRA Touring
7. Honda CBR1100xx Large double bubble
8. Power Bronze Tall Flip.
9. Eagle

Fred


Noel,

Good catch, I forgot about Eagle in Australia.

Do you have any photos of the Eagle windscreens on the FJ?


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

Ribz0

Hi ya Fred... good timing with this thread as Im one of those who have no idea....  :biggrin:

Here in Oz... from my limited knowledge and recent digging around.... the 2 screens I am considering are Eagle and Powerbronze... Both do a variety of sizes from standard to touring flip.

Here in Perth, Eagle make sense cause they are local and Powerbronze have an agent in Victoria who will match Eagles price including delivery so great to have 2 choices!! (im sure there may be more here in Oz)

I recently purchased my bike and it still has the standard screen on it. I can relate to your issue Fred cause it seems to do that to me also... and as for noise... well i dont have anything to compare it to...

I will try to clean my standard one up a bit for now and will buy one of these screens in the new year. It will be interesting to see if there is, or how much noise difference between them...

Cheers

Eric



Bite off more than you can chew... then chew like hell!!

racerrad8

Don't forget Gustafsson windshields as well. They offer a variety of different windshields for the FJ. I am not sure if the discount code still works, but it might be worth asking of you are ordering from them.

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=93.0

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

Zwartie

...and let's not forget Laminar Lip. You'll still need your stock wind screen but the laminar lip will help deflect air upward and reduce buffeting. I had a Laminar Lip on my '92 for years before I got the Vario Touring Screen. The main reason I "upgraded" was because the old wind screen was looking pretty weathered. I had no complaints with the Laminar Lip but overall I like the Vario Touring Screen better.

https://www.laminarlip.com/fj12.php

The image of the '92 is actually my bike. I sent that picture to them 10+ years ago.

Zwartie
Ben Zwart
London, ON
1992 FJ1200
1977 KZ200

Paul.1478

Very good info. I am also looking for some upgrade.
I like the idea of the Laminar lip, 89,00 is not bad. the others are around 180. Also not bad and I really like the input and photos above. Helps me make an informed decision. I don't see many FJs on the streets I can check out there windscreens...
2006 GL1800
2022 Ducati V2
1976 RD400
1993 FJ 1200 ABS

Pat Conlon

I'm 6'3" and I gave up. My solution today is the stock windscreen with a quiet helmet in clean air and custom ear plugs .

My last +4" windscreen made wind buffeting intolerable. God that was a long trip.
I was temped to take it off and throw it away in the middle on my 2k mile tour.



Shorter riders would be fine, but alas, not for me....
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Troyskie

I'm 5'8" and have stock style screens (Eagle) or original.

I follow Pats method of helmet and ear plugs.

If I rode regularly in the rain I think a big screen would be a major advantage.

With the larger screens has anyone any feedback about riding in cross winds? I feel the long nose of the FJ adds to the windage (is that a word?) and buffeting in cross winds.
1984 FJ1100 Ms Effie brand new :)
1984 FJ1100 Pearlie, stock as.
1985 FJ1100 Mr Effie 647,000K and still running hard.
1985 FJ1200 'Yummy' takes a licking & keeps on ticking
2013 Trumpy Tiger 800, let's do another lap of Oz

After all is said and done, more is said than done :)

aviationfred

Quote from: Troyskie on December 13, 2018, 12:15:33 AM

With the larger screens has anyone any feedback about riding in cross winds? I feel the long nose of the FJ adds to the windage (is that a word?) and buffeting in cross winds.

The state that I live in, Kansas generates 29.6% of the state's electricity from wind turbines. We have a lot of wind pretty consistently. The FJ does tend to be affected by crosswinds. I have not noticed any difference in windscreen size while riding in heavy crosswinds. Many riders choose not to ride when the winds kick up. Others, like myself have learned to live with it and adjust how we ride accordingly. Riding 80mph with a 20mph tail wind sure does increase your fuel mileage  :sarcastic: Riding with a head wind obviously has the opposite effect.  :negative:


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

ribbert

Quote from: aviationfred on December 12, 2018, 05:58:32 AM

Do you have any photos of the Eagle windscreens on the FJ?

Fred

Fred, you know I have photos of everything.





Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

ZOA NOM




I hate those goddamned things. We have one of the windiest places in the country covered with those things, and half of them are always off.
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

Pat Conlon

Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 13, 2018, 07:25:39 AM
I hate those goddamned things. 

Yea...Just burn more "Beautiful Clean Coal" :crazy:
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Paul.1478

Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 13, 2018, 07:25:39 AM



I hate those goddamned things. We have one of the windiest places in the country covered with those things, and half of them are always off.
Altamont pass! Yes, I saw that back in the late 70s and when it was "re-built". I was born in Pacifica and moved to Manteca for a year, drove past that everyday 2x a day.
2006 GL1800
2022 Ducati V2
1976 RD400
1993 FJ 1200 ABS

ZOA NOM

Quote from: Pat Conlon on December 13, 2018, 10:24:53 AM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 13, 2018, 07:25:39 AM
I hate those goddamned things. 

Yea...Just burn more "Beautiful Clean Coal" :crazy:

Works fine, lasts long time. In fact, that's what they don't tell you about all these electric cars. They are powered by coal.
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca