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Any tire gauge that's not a PITA?

Started by Charlie-brm, August 12, 2018, 09:40:14 AM

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racerrad8

Quote from: ribbert on August 13, 2018, 10:20:55 AM
Quote from: racerrad8 on August 13, 2018, 10:10:58 AM


I personally use the Garmin Zumo 595LM with the TPMS and it works great.

Randy - RPM


Randy, does the readout show up on the map page or do you have switch pages?

Noel

The actual pressure readings are on a separate page. If & when a tire is/goes low on pressure, there is a big red warning that pops up over the map and stays there until cleared off the screen. It then keeps the red warning indicator off to the side of the map until the problem is resolved.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

Pat Conlon

A couple of Q's on the Garmin TPMS valve cap transmitters:
Do you unscrew the valve cap to add air to the tire?
Do you need straight short metal tire valve stems or can you use these Garmin caps on your 90* angled valve stem?
With the added weight of the Garmin valve cap, I worry about the centrifugal loads (at speed) cracking the 90* stem.

I prefer the internal transmitters for TPMS. Just a gut feeling.  I have no problem changing the batteries at every other tire change.

I keep thinking, the only thing holding back the air pressure is that Schrader valve. Holding that Schrader valve open for air pressure monitoring makes me nervous. With the Garmin cap, the only thing that keeps air escaping are the threads on the tire stem and perhaps an o ring. This, on a cap you remove and reinstall every time you add air to the tire.

It's just me. Call me nervous Nellie.

I do love the idea of the combined GPS/TPMS functions.
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racerrad8

Answers in red below

Randy - RPM

Quote from: Pat Conlon on August 13, 2018, 12:11:21 PM
A couple of Q's on the Garmin TPMS valve cap transmitters:

Do you unscrew the valve cap to add air to the tire? Yes

Do you need straight short metal tire valve stems or can you use these Garmin caps on your 90* angled valve stem? I have been using them on my 90* stems without issue since I installed those Shinko tires three plus years ago...I finally wore those babies out.

With the added weight of the Garmin valve cap, I worry about the centrifugal loads (at speed) cracking the 90* stem. I believe Rick is/was running the heavier metal "Ride On LED Smart Tire Valve Caps" on his FJ. Not sure if they are on the new bike, but I know they were on the old bike that was lost to fire.

I prefer the internal transmitters for TPMS. Just a gut feeling.  I have no problem changing the batteries at every other tire change. I do have access to a set of BLU TPMS Internal Sensor System that will sync to your smart phone if you have a thought of going that route which was presented in this post: Blowhard

I keep thinking, the only thing holding back the air pressure is that Schrader valve. Holding that Schrader valve open for air pressure monitoring makes me nervous. With the Garmin cap, the only thing that keeps air escaping are the threads on the tire stem and perhaps an o ring. This, on a cap you remove and reinstall every time you add air to the tire. I never had any issue with the tire leaking air out when the bike was in use. I did remove the caps when the bike would sit for any extended length of time and pull the batteries so they were not transmitting a signal all of the time and running the batteries dead.

It's just me. Call me nervous Nellie. Okay :rofl2:

I do love the idea of the combined GPS/TPMS functions.
Randy - RPM

Pat Conlon

Thanks Randy, on the internal transmitters for the Blu TPMS, did you ever find out the answer? (batteries replaceable?)

Quote from: racerrad8 on December 22, 2017, 06:28:13 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on December 22, 2017, 06:03:37 PM
Thanks Randy, the BLU internal system looks interesting.
Question: on the internal transmitters, are the batteries replaceable?

I will have to check with the salesman, I don't know. He is gone until after the first of the year, but I'll find out.

Randy - RPM
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

racerrad8

Quote from: Pat Conlon on August 13, 2018, 01:35:13 PM
Thanks Randy, on the internal transmitters for the Blu TPMS, did you ever find out the answer? (batteries replaceable?)

Sorry, I guess I forgot to update that information when the salesman told me. I just called him and he said he has forgotten as well. So, I called Blu directly just now.

No, the batteries are not replaceable on the Blu TPMS. They are sealed units that, according to Blu, depending on use will last between 4-6 years.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

Pat Conlon

Ok, thanks Randy!

If or when Garmin ever offers an internal transmitter option (w/replaceable batteries) for their GPS/TPMS system, I will be first in line to buy one.

Thanks again!

Pat
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

FJmonkey

I am with Pat and will pony up for an internal TPMS from Garmin.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

ribbert

Quote from: racerrad8 on August 13, 2018, 10:26:22 AM

The actual pressure readings are on a separate page. If & when a tire is/goes low on pressure, there is a big red warning that pops up over the map and stays there until cleared off the screen. It then keeps the red warning indicator off to the side of the map until the problem is resolved.

Randy - RPM

That sounds like a pretty good compromise and keeps the dash a little less cluttered.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

ZOA NOM

I used the RPM LED versions, and I liked them. They would need occasional resetting, but they were nice to see you didn't have a low tire with a glance. I haven't put them on the new bike, but I may. I put the 90-degree aluminum valves on at an angle that makes access easy, and I like them a lot.
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

Sparky84

Quote from: oldktmdude on August 12, 2018, 09:55:10 PM
   Why not fit 90 degree valves? They can be fitted without taking the wheel off, just break the bead and push the tyre aside and insert. Screw the nut on, inflate and off you go. Ten minute job if you have the right tools and takes the hassle out of inflating and reading the pressures.
   Regards, Pete.

That sounds quicker than wearing my tyre out and then doing it, what lube would you use once you've installed 90° valves to get the bead to seal again? I've got the valves, got the Garmin, just need the Garmin TPMS

So this TEN minute job doesn't require taking the wheels off then  :scratch_one-s_head: , otherwise I think its a mighty long TEN minutes

Cheers
Alan
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

oldktmdude

Quote from: Sparky84 on August 14, 2018, 01:35:43 AM
Quote from: oldktmdude on August 12, 2018, 09:55:10 PM
  Why not fit 90 degree valves? They can be fitted without taking the wheel off, just break the bead and push the tyre aside and insert. Screw the nut on, inflate and off you go. Ten minute job if you have the right tools and takes the hassle out of inflating and reading the pressures.
  Regards, Pete.

That sounds quicker than wearing my tyre out and then doing it, what lube would you use once you've installed 90° valves to get the bead to seal again? I've got the valves, got the Garmin, just need the Garmin TPMS

So this TEN minute job doesn't require taking the wheels off then  :scratch_one-s_head: , otherwise I think its a mighty long TEN minutes

Cheers
Alan
G'day Alan, wheel removal is not required, break the bead with a pair of quick grip clamps (I use Irwin brand) cut old tubeless valve stem off, fit 90* valve, spray with soapy water
or brush with tyre soap and re-inflate.  Bring your 90* valves down to Troy's shed day and I'll give you a demo.
  Regards, Pete.
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

Sparky84

Quote from: oldktmdude on August 14, 2018, 06:38:31 AM
Quote from: Sparky84 on August 14, 2018, 01:35:43 AM
Quote from: oldktmdude on August 12, 2018, 09:55:10 PM
  Why not fit 90 degree valves? They can be fitted without taking the wheel off, just break the bead and push the tyre aside and insert. Screw the nut on, inflate and off you go. Ten minute job if you have the right tools and takes the hassle out of inflating and reading the pressures.
  Regards, Pete.

That sounds quicker than wearing my tyre out and then doing it, what lube would you use once you've installed 90° valves to get the bead to seal again? I've got the valves, got the Garmin, just need the Garmin TPMS

So this TEN minute job doesn't require taking the wheels off then  :scratch_one-s_head: , otherwise I think its a mighty long TEN minutes

Cheers
Alan
G'day Alan, wheel removal is not required, break the bead with a pair of quick grip clamps (I use Irwin brand) cut old tubeless valve stem off, fit 90* valve, spray with soapy water
or brush with tyre soap and re-inflate.  Bring your 90* valves down to Troy's shed day and I'll give you a demo.
  Regards, Pete.

G'day Pete,
Mate I've only got a couple of the Vise Grip brand of Quick Grips so they mighten do it then...
Do you just angle the 90's straight out to the side or angled back just a touch so you can still get air hose on?

If I have trouble or don't get time and I do make it on the Saturday, I'll definitely bring them down and the Quick Grips.

Cheers
Alan
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

red

Just my $.02 worth, but if you use angled valve stems, they must face valve-forward when the valve stem is closest to the ground, and completely miss the caliper when the wheel is rotating.  If the angled valve stem hits the caliper then, that minor impact would rotate the valve stem slightly, but maybe not do major damage.  If the valve stem faces the wrong way and hits the caliper head-on with the valve cap when the wheel is rotating, that mishap could shear off the valve stem entirely, for an instant flat tire.
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Cheers,
Red

P.S. Life is too short, and health is too valuable, to ride on cheap parade-duty tires.

ZOA NOM

Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

Sparky84

Thanks Rick,

Mate did you paint them? and what with if you did?
I think mine are just plain alloy colour and it would be good to have them black.

Now to find some tyre soap and not 5kg of it, might go and see my local tyre mob and take a container

Cheers
Alan
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2