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Started by aj52, March 05, 2018, 01:10:02 AM

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FJ_Hooligan

Connect a clear tube to the float bowl drain screw, bend the tube so it's pointing up next to the float bowl gasket line, open the drain a few turns  and use that to see what the actual fuel level in the bowl is while the fuel pump is on.
DavidR.

aj52

 :morning2:
Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on July 28, 2018, 08:05:09 PM
Connect a clear tube to the float bowl drain screw, bend the tube so it's pointing up next to the float bowl gasket line, open the drain a few turns  and use that to see what the actual fuel level in the bowl is while the fuel pump is on.

Thanks for the tip,will check it like that prior putting it back
Current:                              
1991 FJ 1200 ABS
1991 FJ 1200

aj52

Took the bowl of today and remove the float.
And what do I see....there sits the o-ring piece that sheared off when I installed it,fine piece as the carb body cut it.
Other thing I saw was that the rubber tip has a 'ring' where it seals.

Thanks for everyone that gave their inputs and special to Randy for pointing out for what to look for.
Is like he said,there are small things to look out for.

Hannes
Current:                              
1991 FJ 1200 ABS
1991 FJ 1200

ryanschoebel

Glad to hear you were able to find it!
1985 FJ1100-- Atlas (SOLD)
1984 FJ1100-- Storm

Pat Conlon

I called it...
Quote from: Pat Conlon on July 27, 2018, 03:38:19 PM
Common cause: Fuel leaking past the o rings on the float needle seats. Replace those.
If they are already new, they are easy to damage if installed incorrectly.

Jelly donuts for meeee :dance2:
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

aj52

Quote from: Pat Conlon on July 29, 2018, 04:10:22 PM
I called it...
Quote from: Pat Conlon on July 27, 2018, 03:38:19 PM
Common cause: Fuel leaking past the o rings on the float needle seats. Replace those.
If they are already new, they are easy to damage if installed incorrectly.

Jelly donuts for meeee :dance2:

There you go Pat,thanks a lot

Hannes
Current:                              
1991 FJ 1200 ABS
1991 FJ 1200

oldktmdude

   Lubricating "o rings" with rubber grease or other suitable lube should stop this kind of damage whilst installing "o ringed" items.
   Regards, Pete.   :good2:
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

Motofun

I bought a gallon of RUGLYDE from the local NAPA store.  Rubber lube for everything from mounting tires on rims to o-ring installation.  A gallon will last about 7 life times. :biggrin:
'75 Honda CB400F
'85 Yamaha RZ350
'85 Yamaha FJ1100
'89 Yamaha FJ1200
'09 Yamaha 125 Zuma
'09 Kawasaki KZ110 (grand kids)
'13 Suzuki GSXR 750 (track)
'14 Yamaha FZ-09
'23 Yamaha Tenere 7
SOLD: CBX,RZ500,Ninja 650,CB400F,V45 Sabre,CB700SC,R1,GSXR1000R

aj52

This was the first one I've put in.I should've use oil.on it,but didn't. The other 3 I did,because I've felt the first one was a bit hard to assemble. So actually I should have known that it sheared. Learned my lesson on o-ring installation.
Current:                              
1991 FJ 1200 ABS
1991 FJ 1200

aj52

Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on July 28, 2018, 08:05:09 PM
Connect a clear tube to the float bowl drain screw, bend the tube so it's pointing up next to the float bowl gasket line, open the drain a few turns  and use that to see what the actual fuel level in the bowl is while the fuel pump is on.

Should the carbs be at 90° when doing this.
And what height should the fuel be in the bowls when filled up
I'm going to use same method to set the floats as I've done it the first time as describe by Randy's post in the files section

Hannes
Current:                              
1991 FJ 1200 ABS
1991 FJ 1200

aj52

Quote from: aj52 on July 30, 2018, 05:31:08 PM
Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on July 28, 2018, 08:05:09 PM
Connect a clear tube to the float bowl drain screw, bend the tube so it's pointing up next to the float bowl gasket line, open the drain a few turns  and use that to see what the actual fuel level in the bowl is while the fuel pump is on.

Should the carbs be at 90° when doing this.
And what height should the fuel be in the bowls when filled up
I'm going to use same method to set the floats as I've done it the first time as describe by Randy's post in the files section

Hannes

Please ignore,found my answer.
Lift front till carbs are level.
The height in tube should be at around 5mm from the top of bowl
Current:                              
1991 FJ 1200 ABS
1991 FJ 1200

Sparky84

Here's some pictures of mine.
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

aj52

Current:                              
1991 FJ 1200 ABS
1991 FJ 1200

ribbert

Quote from: aj52 on July 28, 2018, 05:16:22 PM

.......It only leaks when the fuel pump is running. If I switch ignition off,the leak then stops.

Hannes


I've had good success with persisitent carb leaks after full rebuilds with this......



Before

Polishing out this divot




After

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

FJ_Hooligan

The angle of the carbs won't matter if you make the measurement at the approximate center of the float bowl. 

The fuel level will pivot around a fixed point at the center of the bowl.

If the carbs are tilted forward, the level will be higher at the front and lower at the back, but at the center, it will not move.
DavidR.