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Started by aj52, March 05, 2018, 01:10:02 AM

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aj52

On Saterday,I bought another FJ.
The project on the ABS is taking longer than than I've anticipated.

Bike is in good condition,paid 1200 USD for it. I am the 3rd owner since new.
Has 58 000km on it.

Saturday afternoon when I want to start it,battery went dead. Luckely I got home without any issues.
Jumpstart it,but as soon as I switch on ignition,the negative jumper cable gots hot.
So I put charger on battery for 10 min. It started.
Took out multimeter,check over battery poles. Reading 11.72V ,even when reving around 4000RPM.

I swapped out altenators to check what reading is,with the ABS altenator,it shows 13.98V.
The red plug was stuck,had to clean it before putting other alternator in.

My question is:

Is the alternator toasted or is it just the regulator that went bad.
I don't know if the short circuit it created,is sign of totally scrap now. Had to change blown fuse also after realising it is alternator

Thanks
Hannes
Current:                              
1991 FJ 1200 ABS
1991 FJ 1200

racerrad8

Check both wires form the bike side at the red plug.

One should be constant battery voltage and the other keyed ignition switch battery voltage.

If you have the correct voltage at both wires, the alternator is the issue. If not fix the supply voltage issue first.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

aj52

Thanks Randy.
Since I swapped the 2 altenators,I had no issue so far.
What I forgot to mentioned was that it has a new battery in,PO bought it last month. Date is also engraved on battery,so I don't think it is battery related.
The short circuit when switching on bike(with jumper cables),is also gone since the altenator swap.
Maybe it was because of headlight coming on when switching ignition on,that I thought it was an short circuit.
But everything is fine now.

Hannes
Current:                              
1991 FJ 1200 ABS
1991 FJ 1200

aj52

Just a quick question,maybe even stupid as I think I know what the answer is going to be.

So here it goes:

When I start the FJ with choke when cold,headers 1and 3 stays cold,no heating up at all.
Can hear that it is not running on all 4 cylinders.
As soon as I "cancel" the choke,it run on all 4,all the headers are warm and idle smoothly.

Is that normal,because I can't remember or notice it on the ABS.

Hannes
Current:                              
1991 FJ 1200 ABS
1991 FJ 1200

FJmonkey

Sure seems like blocked choke circuits. They have the smallest hole and clog up first.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

balky1

No, it's not normal. Monkey has the answer for you.


FJ 1100, 1985, sold
FJR 1300, 2009

FJ_Hooligan

The tiny orifice in the lower side of the float bowl is clogged.  That's where the choke circuit draws fuel from.
DavidR.

aj52

Thanks guys.
Will pull the carbs next week then,this weekend I am going to attend a rally,so it have to wait until then.
To late to fix this.

Hannes
Current:                              
1991 FJ 1200 ABS
1991 FJ 1200

aj52

So,there it also happened to me this morning.

Start the FJ after about 2 weeks. Since I haven't got the 'time' to pull the carbs yet,I ignored the fact it is only on 2 cylinders when choke is out to warm up.
After about 3 minutes,I deactivate it and wait for the misfiring to go away,but it doesn't.
Long story short,I rode it to work,noticing it runs shit.
Stop at work and switch off. As I dismount,I smell petrol.
Look and what do I see...petrol pissing out of one of the overflow pipes untill the pressure is released in system(fuel pump).

Got home after work(rode it like that) and pulled the carbs off the bike.
Strip the bowls off and expect dirty carbs. Looks almost new inside,no dirt at all.
Dumbstruck I took out float to inspect the needles. Also new.

Then something caught my eye as I looked at the needle seats. Something white.
Remove the retaining clip,pull it out and gues what???

Some bloody idiot that work on the carbs,putt THREAD SEAL TAPE onto the needle seats. The o-rings was not replace,was brittle and hard and flush with the seat. Went loose into the carb body.

This is what pisses me off. Doing all the hard work and then do something like that.
Dumb f'king idiot.

Sorry for vending,but I am pissed as hell.
Current:                              
1991 FJ 1200 ABS
1991 FJ 1200

PaulG

Quote from: aj52 on July 25, 2018, 04:48:01 PM
This is what pisses me off. Doing all the hard work and then do something like that.
Dumb f'king idiot.

Sorry for vending,but I am pissed as hell.




Deinde, ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis in nomine Patris, et Filii, + et Spiritus Sancti. Amen.   :empathy:   :drinks:
1992 FJ1200 ABS
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Urban_Legend

Some bloody idiot that work on the carbs,putt THREAD SEAL TAPE onto the needle seats. The o-rings was not replace,was brittle and hard and flush with the seat. Went loose into the carb body.

This is what pisses me off. Doing all the hard work and then do something like that.
Dumb f'king idiot.

Sorry for vending,but I am pissed as hell.

You will find that THIS is the reason a lot of us drink. and why a lot of us do our own work on the bikes.  :dash2:
If you met us all we would look like a bunch of old farts.....we are all in our 20's actually, fixing bike issues just makes us look older.
Mark
Mark
My Baby (Sparkles)
84 FJ1100/1200 motor
92 FJ 1200 - Project bike. Finished and sold.
84 FJ1100 - Project bike.

Sparky84

Quote from: Urban_Legend on July 25, 2018, 11:33:16 PM
You will find that THIS is the reason a lot of us drink. and why a lot of us do our own work on the bikes.  :dash2:
If you met us all we would look like a bunch of old farts.....we are all in our 20's actually, fixing bike issues just makes us look older.
Mark

Speak for yourself Mark,  :ireful:

I can't afford anybody else to work on my bike.. they'd charge more than my 0$/hr  :good: and

I'm older than 20's, I'm past 30 and proud of it (actually didn't think I'd get this far)  :yahoo:
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

TexasDave



You will find that THIS is the reason a lot of us drink. and why a lot of us do our own work on the bikes.  :dash2:
If you met us all we would look like a bunch of old farts.....we are all in our 20's actually, fixing bike issues just makes us look older.     :rofl2:
Mark

Thanks Mark. I was wondering why I was looking so much older!

Dave
A pistol is like a parachute, if you need one and don't have one you will never need one again.

ryanschoebel

Quote from: Sparky84 on July 26, 2018, 12:30:56 AM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on July 25, 2018, 11:33:16 PM
You will find that THIS is the reason a lot of us drink. and why a lot of us do our own work on the bikes.  :dash2:
If you met us all we would look like a bunch of old farts.....we are all in our 20's actually, fixing bike issues just makes us look older.
Mark
Speak for yourself Mark,  :ireful:

I can't afford anybody else to work on my bike.. they'd charge more than my 0$/hr  :good: and

I'm older than 20's, I'm past 30 and proud of it (actually didn't think I'd get this far)  :yahoo:

I'll tell you what, I can't afford to have anyone else, or myself work on my bike  :rofl: if I pay someone, I'm gonna pay more than I can afford, if I do it myself, I'm gonna break more than I can afford  :lol:
1985 FJ1100-- Atlas (SOLD)
1984 FJ1100-- Storm

JPaganel

I drink because of carb floats.

:diablo:


Those stupid things are enough to make me want to actually invest the money into an EFI setup.... 
1993 FJ1200 ABS

1984 FJ600, up on blocks

1986 FJ1200, flaming wreck, repaired and sold
1986 FJ1200, repaired, ridden, sold


I don't want a pickle
I just want to ride my motorcicle