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Paint code question...

Started by europe50, March 26, 2010, 08:23:50 AM

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europe50

Hey guys,
I have searched the internet and the "Files section" here and can not seem to find anything on what the paint code (Or colors) are for these bikes?
I am looking specifically looking for my 1986 red color? (Touch-up & spray)
White (Not really white) would be nice also if someone knows.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Dean
Chicago, IL

RichBaker

 These guys are your best bet, IIRC, Yamaha doesn't supply paint codes....

http://www.colorrite.com/
Rich Baker - NRA Life, AZCDL, Trail Riders of S. AZ. , AMA Life, BRC, HEAT Dirt Riders, SAMA....
Tennessee Squire
90 FJ1200, 03 WR450F ;8^P

blackboat

I tried the link and their "Paint Wizard" color selector doesn't seem very friendly to bikes as old as ours. Don't know if this has anything to do with the previous comment on Yamaha not supplying codes, or if Colorite doesn't want to deal in something that old since matching is probably pretty iffy on a 20+ year old bike (understandably).

I was about to post the same question myself, except mine's an '89 in what appears to be a dark blue metallic. Duplicolor doesn't seem to do motorcycles.

Quick look at google revealed these guys: http://www.cyclecolor.com/

With pricing over $300 for a fender size quantity I'm thinking colors over the internet aren't the way to go.

I'm going to check with some of the local paint shops. If you have to send a part for a match, ordering over the 'net ain't so speedy. I'm in the woodworking business and a couple of our finish suppliers can put stuff in aerosol cans themselves. I'd assume the same technology has trickled down to the local level at auto paint suppliers, but don't know for sure.

My main problem is the area under the RH side ram is gone. I can take patterns from the LH side, mirror them, the lay up an epoxy/glass repair part. I'd like to paint it and blend it as well as I can (some other spots too), and can accept it probably won't be dead perfect color-wise. For now I just want it acceptable; I want to repaint the whole bike in a year or two, so spending a few hundred on a patch is silly to me. I just need to fill in the gaping hole.

If I can't find something at the paint shop I'll probably resort to pawing through color charts from somebody relatively cheap like Duplicolor, and feel I can probably use a couple of different stock colors (aerosol) to blend in an acceptable for now match on the repaired area.

Not done searching yet; would love to hear how anyone else has dealt with this, especially in that dark blue metallic :biggrin:

Rob

LA Mike

Quote from: blackboat on March 27, 2010, 01:02:33 AM

I was about to post the same question myself, except mine's an '89 in what appears to be a dark blue metallic. Duplicolor doesn't seem to do motorcycles.

Not done searching yet; would love to hear how anyone else has dealt with this, especially in that dark blue metallic :biggrin:

Rob


Well for your '89 Shiny Black your search is over here is a matching Dupont color code:" M4603K, alt #o ". I repainted my whole bike a couple years back and it is a perfect match to the Yamaha factory color; I believe it was provided by Brain Hunt a member of this group and a professional painter.

LA Mike

blackboat

QuoteWell for your '89 Shiny Black your search is over here is a matching Dupont color code: M4603K

Uh, but it's blue? I did come up with that code searching the Colorite site using later model years, but w/o being to see it, discounted it because of the name.

Serious Question: The bike is blue isn't it? Not just mine, but pics of others look like a real dark blue metallic. I do seem to have some problems seeing blue like everyone sees it, but it's usually at the part of the spectrum of the blue - green transition. So help me out please, anyone else see them as blue, and it has kind of an odd name, or are they black? :unknown:

Thanks,
Rob

pdxfj

The 89's "Shiny Black" code was provided by Brian Hunt.  His paint supplier has a way of using a computer scanner to "read" the color directly off a part you take to them.  Then the computer looks though a database and finds the color and gives them a print out for the mix code.  If you look in the files section you'll see we did this for the '87 colors.  Brian misplaced the code sheet for the '89's Shiny Black.  He has a stock 89 fairing that we plan on getting the code for again, plus '86 and '84 years.  I hope to do this for all years.

Color-Rite is really out there on price.  Brian is able to paint an entire bike with 1/2 a pint of paint (just 8oz) and still have paint left over.

If you are able to wait a little longer on the paint code, I might be able to get it next weekend.  I can get it for you, it's just a matter of arranging everything with Brian and getting the parts to the paint supplier.

You could call a Dupont paint supplier and give them the code below and ask them what it is.  They will likely tell you it's a very dark blue (almost black).  Mind you it will not come back as a 1989 Yamaha FJ1200.  The codes I posted up the '87's red said it's off a '96 Volkswagen.



Quote from: LA Mike on March 27, 2010, 01:48:06 AM
Well for your '89 Shiny Black your search is over here is a matching Dupont color code:" M4603K, alt #o ". I repainted my whole bike a couple years back and it is a perfect match to the Yamaha factory color; I believe it was provided by Brain Hunt a member of this group and a professional painter.

LA Mike

Marsh White

Yes, you are correct.  The black 89 fj is actually a very dark blue metallic.  Yamaha just called that color "shiny black".  

blackboat

Thanks guys, I thought that was what you were telling me, but wanted to clear it up. I had tried searches here, but using the word blue may have thrown it, or who knows. It was getting late and maybe I just didn't use the right words; I wasn't getting many hits on "paint" at all, which surprised me. Probably me.

I apologize for maligning Colorite for having no information. They do, it only goes back to '90, where they show Shiny Black & Silky White. The obvious mistake I made was assuming my blue motorcycle wouldn't be painted something called shiny black. My own ignorance being displayed, I apologize.

On prices I was actually referring to the kits from Cycle Color, not Colorite. However upon researching it a bit more, their prices are nearly identical, although it appears Colorite only offers the aerosol option. For what I need it would be about $70 for primer/color/clear in spray bombs. Expensive, but given that I don't use auto paints routinely, I'd have to have the reducer and such, so even if it's a small affordable amount of paint from the local guys, all the extras will probably be worse. I'm still going to follow my own suggestion  and check local just so I know for sure what they can do to help.

No real hurry on this for me, just after the correct info. This will done as a rolling repair as much as possible, and it will take me at least a couple of weeks to do the glasswork if I started today, which I'm not.

Thanks for the code given, I'll play with that once I can boot over to windoze; my iMac isn't playing together well with it. Good old cheap Duplicolor might be back in the game  if it matches an auto code. :good2:

Thanks so much,

Rob

Ned

There aren't many paint suppliers these days that can't scan a piece of bike/car and make a very close match - a bit harder for metallic paints, and that will also account for a bit of fading in the original paint. I never buy paint from the original paint code and expect to paint a part of a car or bike and get a good match if it's been more than a few years in the sun. Most panel and paint shops in NZ have their suppliers paint swatches and you can often get a very close match in a car paint. The white parts of my bike are all done with a late model Toyota colour. If you're doing the whole bike it's no problem but small touch ups are a pain. To blokes the 91-94 blue may be blue but AFAIK it is called something girly like dark violet cocktail.... :scratch_one-s_head:

Ned
Ned - Kiwis can fly ... on an FJ

wheels

Quote from: blackboat on March 27, 2010, 09:43:11 AM
QuoteWell for your '89 Shiny Black your search is over here is a matching Dupont color code: M4603K

Uh, but it's blue? I did come up with that code searching the Colorite site using later model years, but w/o being to see it, discounted it because of the name.

Serious Question: The bike is blue isn't it? Not just mine, but pics of others look like a real dark blue metallic. I do seem to have some problems seeing blue like everyone sees it, but it's usually at the part of the spectrum of the blue - green transition. So help me out please, anyone else see them as blue, and it has kind of an odd name, or are they black? :unknown:

Thanks,
Rob
hey rob my fj is blue when the sun shine's on it .but when it is overcast it is is black .

wheels

Quote from: wheels on March 27, 2010, 05:59:57 PM
Quote from: blackboat on March 27, 2010, 09:43:11 AM
QuoteWell for your '89 Shiny Black your search is over here is a matching Dupont color code: M4603K

Uh, but it's blue? I did come up with that code searching the Colorite site using later model years, but w/o being to see it, discounted it because of the name.

Serious Question: The bike is blue isn't it? Not just mine, but pics of others look like a real dark blue metallic. I do seem to have some problems seeing blue like everyone sees it, but it's usually at the part of the spectrum of the blue - green transition. So help me out please, anyone else see them as blue, and it has kind of an odd name, or are they black? :unknown:  just look at the gallery pic

Thanks,
Rob
hey rob my fj is blue when the sun shine's on it .but when it is overcast it is is black .

rlucas

The Cheap Bastiche route:

Yamaha Stormy Red - Plasti-Kote 7104 (GM truck color)
Yamaha Silky White - Plasti-Kote 5426 (Nissan color)

Not perfect but very close; both are non-metallic. The red is very close, the white is just a shade off. Works well if you're painting the entire bike or an entire part...I wouldn't try spot-painting, though. I've used these on the fairing scoops, stock lower, and full lower. You have to get really close to the bike or have it in just the right light to see the difference.

http://www.fjrally.com/picgallery/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=8&text=&imageid=698&box=&shownew=

As always, YMMV.


Rossi
We're not a club. Clubs have rules. Pay dues. Wear hats and shit.

"Y'all might be faster than me, but you didn't have more fun than I did." Eric McClellan (RIP '15)

rlucas

Just realized we're talking about an '89, here. My bad.  :dash1: Maybe someone can use the info anyway...

Really, it was just an excuse to link a pic of the bike.

Rossi
We're not a club. Clubs have rules. Pay dues. Wear hats and shit.

"Y'all might be faster than me, but you didn't have more fun than I did." Eric McClellan (RIP '15)

blackboat

Actually Rossi, you did provide just what the OP was asking for. My questions on how to find paint codes, naturally for my own '89, and the confusion on my part over blue being named Shiny Black, had partially hijacked the thread.

Red & White for an '86 was the original request, now with a useful answer.

Rob

Mark Olson

well it helped me out for my 86.
Mark O.
86 fj1200
sac ca.

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