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Brake lever: steel vs aluminum

Started by great white, May 23, 2017, 12:48:37 PM

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racerrad8

Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
On my goodness! 899 USD.

Plus shipping and exchange would push me into the 1400-1500 cad range.

Not splitting hairs, but I just checked with general shipping to Nova Scotia and it is more like the $1300.00 range. You can knock 10% off of that if you take advantage of the current ongoing RPM Memorial Day Sale.

Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
Not a fan of pod filters on CV carbs either. Pass more air? Sure, potentially. But lots of jetting work required to get them to carburate properly, at least it always has been in my experience.

Not much work at all. I can get you right in the proper jetting range based on the specifics of your area. No matter what modifications you have made.

Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
Heck, I may end up taking off the Kerkers if they're too loud for my taste.....

The RPM exhaust system is not load by any means. In fact it sounds a lot like today's current sport bikes. A nice low rumble at slow speeds and not any noticeable exhaust noise while at highway speeds.

Don't let your prior experiences detour you from getting the most from your FJ.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

great white

Quote from: racerrad8 on May 24, 2017, 08:17:34 PM
Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
On my goodness! 899 USD.

Plus shipping and exchange would push me into the 1400-1500 cad range.

Not splitting hairs, but I just checked with general shipping to Nova Scotia and it is more like the $1300.00 range. You can knock 10% off of that if you take advantage of the current ongoing RPM Memorial Day Sale.

Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
Not a fan of pod filters on CV carbs either. Pass more air? Sure, potentially. But lots of jetting work required to get them to carburate properly, at least it always has been in my experience.

Not much work at all. I can get you right in the proper jetting range based on the specifics of your area. No matter what modifications you have made.

Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
Heck, I may end up taking off the Kerkers if they're too loud for my taste.....

The RPM exhaust system is not load by any means. In fact it sounds a lot like today's current sport bikes. A nice low rumble at slow speeds and not any noticeable exhaust noise while at highway speeds.

Don't let your prior experiences detour you from getting the most from your FJ.

Randy - RPM

Don't get me wrong, I'm not casting stones at your product. I just don't have the cash for it right now.

1300 cad sounds about right if around 100 cad shipping. But when that declared value comes through customs, I can count on getting hit with gst to a tune of around 65 bucks. Then whatever duties they levy on it, which should be none if it's all NA content. As long as free trade hasn't gone all weird in light of recent political events that is........

I'd snugging up to the 1400 cad mark at least by the time it got to my door.

Like I've said before, I'm pleased with the products I've gotten from you so far, but I just don't have that kind of cash around in "liquid state" right now. Wife would kill me too since I've made a lot of big purchases recently (laptop, new truck, full maximum motorsports suspension for the  mustang, etc). I have to build up some wife points before I hit the bank account again....:sarcastic:

I may try making up the "Delkevic style" 4 into 2. Probably do it in mild steel while I'm experimenting with it. Mild steel for ease of shaping. Plus; I have a lot of mild steel (tube and  sheet) lying around. But honestly, mostly because my mig isn't set up for stainless right now. I'd have to buy a second bottle and that's not cheap here either....:sarcastic:

I'm just not looking to get into the airbox this year. Getting my venture/VMax hybrid into a decent running state was enough "fun" last year, and it still needs work. It's running strong (will flare the clutch on heavy throttle upshifts if you're not careful) , but 25 mpg indicates something is still way off, mostly fighting to find a good float level so I can zero in the rest of the carb circuits. Pulling the carbs in and out of the middle of the "V" is also not what I would call "a treat" either; I have to drop the front engine mounts to just to get the carbs out because the vboost makes them juuust tall enough to not clear the top frame rails. The FJ  is runnin' fine and I have no desire to start tweaking the carbs on it this year. I need a break from carb work.... I'm hoping the kerker slip on don't mess with the jetting too much.

Sound/loud is pretty subjective, as I'm sure you know. I may not even like the kerker and go back to stock. Again, not casting aspirations against your products, I'm just not ready to bite into it for that type of cash.....at this time.

:)

racerrad8

Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 08:36:01 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on May 24, 2017, 08:17:34 PM
Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
On my goodness! 899 USD.

Plus shipping and exchange would push me into the 1400-1500 cad range.

Not splitting hairs, but I just checked with general shipping to Nova Scotia and it is more like the $1300.00 range. You can knock 10% off of that if you take advantage of the current ongoing RPM Memorial Day Sale.

Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
Not a fan of pod filters on CV carbs either. Pass more air? Sure, potentially. But lots of jetting work required to get them to carburate properly, at least it always has been in my experience.

Not much work at all. I can get you right in the proper jetting range based on the specifics of your area. No matter what modifications you have made.

Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
Heck, I may end up taking off the Kerkers if they're too loud for my taste.....

The RPM exhaust system is not load by any means. In fact it sounds a lot like today's current sport bikes. A nice low rumble at slow speeds and not any noticeable exhaust noise while at highway speeds.

Don't let your prior experiences detour you from getting the most from your FJ.

Randy - RPM
Don't get me wrong, I'm not casting stones at your product. I just don't have the cash for it right now.

Perfectly understood. I was just making sure the numbers were right.

Don't forget, I do "adjust" all duty values to try and keep the fees to a minimum.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

fj1289

Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM
On my goodness! 899 USD.

I know!  The same exhaust for a Busa goes for $1000-1250!

mark1969

Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM

Not a fan of pod filters on CV carbs either. Pass more air? Sure, potentially. But lots of jetting work required to get them to carburate properly, at least it always has been in my experience. Rather not open that particular can O' worms on this bike.

I have pods, and have used with 4-1 and now a 4-2 system with various jets and needle height settings. I'm not a fan, because my bike is now a powerful moped with a nice induction sound and a very quick top end. The mid range kick that the standard air box/ filter gave has gone and is replaced by an almost linear acceleration which I don't like.

Which for me means my most common riding rev range of well below 7000 revs is not as good as it was with the airbox and STANDARD filter.

With speed cameras, traffic and our small country with short roads, it's not easy to ride at high revs which is where pods come into their own.

I know plenty of people on here disagree and that's fine, but my experience on different bikes is that pods of any type ruin the mid range.

Think I've talked myself into going back to the air box again...either that or sell.

Sorry for going off topic...  :wacko3:


chiz

Just my two penny worth. If someone had a great system without those horrible car muffler things on the end I would seriously consider. There is nothing like a beautiful long mega or reverse cone. 
   
    Chiz

racerrad8

Quote from: chiz on May 25, 2017, 08:03:21 AM
Just my two penny worth. If someone had a great system without those horrible car muffler things on the end I would seriously consider. There is nothing like a beautiful long mega or reverse cone. 
   
    Chiz

Chiz,

Ask and you shall receive...

The RPM S/S Exhaust System has a megaphone muffler option.



Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

racerrad8

Quote from: mark1969 on May 25, 2017, 06:04:52 AM
Quote from: great white on May 24, 2017, 01:31:52 AM

Not a fan of pod filters on CV carbs either. Pass more air? Sure, potentially. But lots of jetting work required to get them to carburate properly, at least it always has been in my experience. Rather not open that particular can O' worms on this bike.

I have pods, and have used with 4-1 and now a 4-2 system with various jets and needle height settings. I'm not a fan, because my bike is now a powerful moped with a nice induction sound and a very quick top end. The mid range kick that the standard air box/ filter gave has gone and is replaced by an almost linear acceleration which I don't like.

Which for me means my most common riding rev range of well below 7000 revs is not as good as it was with the airbox and STANDARD filter.

With speed cameras, traffic and our small country with short roads, it's not easy to ride at high revs which is where pods come into their own.

I know plenty of people on here disagree and that's fine, but my experience on different bikes is that pods of any type ruin the mid range.

Think I've talked myself into going back to the air box again...either that or sell.

Sorry for going off topic...  :wacko3:


Mark,

No need to sell, we can fix that.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

PaulG

Quote from: chiz on May 25, 2017, 08:03:21 AM
Just my two penny worth. If someone had a great system without those horrible car muffler things on the end I would seriously consider.

I think they are so huge now is because they have built-in catalytic convertors(?)  When I had my '97 R1100GS it had a convertor underneath/behind the oil pan prior to the mid pipe exiting to the muffler, thus keeping it to an acceptable size.  It had the ground clearance to accomodate that.

Just wonder what will happen (and it probably will) when they ban ALL non-catalytic vehicles from the road...  :cray:   DOH!  Have gone from a brake lever to catalytic exhausts....  :sorry:

1992 FJ1200 ABS
YouTube Channel Paul G


Mattman

How about sound clips for all the above?



Quote from: racerrad8 on May 25, 2017, 10:36:35 AM
Quote from: chiz on May 25, 2017, 08:03:21 AM
Just my two penny worth. If someone had a great system without those horrible car muffler things on the end I would seriously consider. There is nothing like a beautiful long mega or reverse cone. 
   
    Chiz

Chiz,

Ask and you shall receive...

The RPM S/S Exhaust System has a megaphone muffler option.



Randy - RPM
past motorcycles, 26, too many to list!

fj1289

Quote from: PaulG on May 25, 2017, 11:54:24 AM

Just wonder what will happen (and it probably will) when they ban ALL non-catalytic vehicles from the road...  :cray:   DOH!  Have gone from a brake lever to catalytic exhausts....  :sorry:



Paul - I wouldn't worry about that too much -- I mean it would probably happen in someplace like Ontario LONG before it becomes a widespread issue...


























:biggrin:

racerrad8

Quote from: Mattman on May 25, 2017, 01:49:39 PM
How about sound clips for all the above?

You will hear several next week at the WCR.

I'm not sure if there will be a megaphone muffler there, but plenty of S/S & Carbon Fiber.

I know there are a couple of videos people have posted with the muffler note. But the video does not do it justice.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

Mattman

Yes its the megaphone im interested in hearing, I have been listening to exhaust sound clips for my mustang like crazy, so hard to decide because like you said the 'in person' sound is much different. ( probably better in all cases) With cars I have to go with sound clips to make a decision because its unlikely to find my set up exactly with the so many different muffler choices. ugh  lol
past motorcycles, 26, too many to list!

red

Quote from: Mattman on May 25, 2017, 02:01:57 PMYes its the megaphone im interested in hearing, I have been listening to exhaust sound clips for my mustang like crazy, so hard to decide because like you said the 'in person' sound is much different. ( probably better in all cases) With cars I have to go with sound clips to make a decision because its unlikely to find my set up exactly with the so many different muffler choices. ugh 
Mattman,

Most computer sound systems are LAME.  For any sound clips that you find, try listening with some high quality earbuds, instead.  The sound is there, really, but the desk speakers can't hack the mission.

@ PaulG,  Since the Lightning LS-218 ran away with the Bonneville speed record and the Pikes Peak race to the top, I have not been too concerned with catalytics, or their departure.  For Bonneville, "the Lightning Motorcycle team claims it used 'only 18 cents of electricity on their record-breaking run and were getting the equivalent of over 50 mpg at over 200 mph.' Welcome to the future."  I think they took off the mirrors, for Bonneville.
Cheers,
Red

P.S. Life is too short, and health is too valuable, to ride on cheap parade-duty tires.

Mattman

past motorcycles, 26, too many to list!