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Started by Pat Conlon, October 21, 2016, 12:06:34 PM

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Charlie-brm

Here is a valve cover cut away of an operating BMW car engine revving to 14,000 rpm. Contemporary DOHC with springs engineering. Fun starts at 00:50
https://youtu.be/tKPJHq9hzEQ

It's almost painful to watch and I don't put my face too close to the monitor, LOL. How engines don't fly apart and turn into portable particle colliders just impresses me all the time.
If someone wants to see any images I refer to in posts, first check my gallery here. If no bueno, send me a PM. More than glad to share.
Current Model: 1990 FJ1200 3CV since 2020
Past Models: 1984 FJ1100 - 2012 to 2020
1979 XS750SF - 2005 to 2012

FeralRdr

Quote from: Pat Conlon on October 21, 2016, 12:06:34 PM
Recently I was peeking under a cover at an unnamed motorcycle shop and noticed a FJ cylinder head with the cams missing and all the cam journals milled out and recessed into the head, some sort of strange valve actuators with small hydraulic lines running to them.
Hmmmm, no cams?

Then last week, I saw this in my news feed:  http://www.popsci.com/9-greatest-innovations-in-automotives-this-year

Further investigations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4p-55a3WV8





So any truth to the rumors an RPM Flux Capictor is in the works too?  :good2:


TexasDave

                                                   10 years in the future

This Koenigsegg computer controlled valve technology is great. Can select one mode for max gas mileage for touring. Second mode for max power with the computer automatically adjusting the timing, EFI, valve lift and duration. All done while travelling down the road. Then there is boost mode activated by a button for far more power. Timing, EFI and now both valves opening and closing on every stroke. Now have a 1200cc TWO STROKE. 30% more power. Only good for short periods and gas mileage is crap but who needs a TURBO?

Dave   
A pistol is like a parachute, if you need one and don't have one you will never need one again.

ZOA NOM

The talk of using the engine as an air compressor on deceleration was interesting...
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

Pat Conlon

...and no throttle plates to control airflow to the cylinders....
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

ZOA NOM

Quote from: Pat Conlon on October 24, 2016, 02:00:42 AM
...and no throttle plates to control airflow to the cylinders....

Pregnant with possibilities...  Maybe the good 'ol internal combustion engine hasn't quite given way to the coal-fired electric crapcans just yet...  :)
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

Russfjr1

When I was working at Koenigsegg on the development of the powerplant all be it mostly v12 AMG we figured that with tweaking the tec we could knock off 4 cylinders thus using a v8, buy filling on board air tanks via pistons on over run with sufficient air pressure to take place of the turbos and give a rise of 34% power per litre. This we put to test on a Nissan Micra 1.0 made in 2001 with if memory serves 53bhp (at the engine not wheels). We made the head for it minus the cam and with a few other modifications to the inlet and exhaust tracks we managed 68% increase to 89bhp
OK i agree 89bhp is low but 68% is phenomenal, Just think if your bike or car or whatever machine has say 187bhp that goes to 314.16bhp combined with a cleaner more fuel efficient engine 
It's about as useful as a chocolate fire guard
Current bikes in the stables

Yamaha FJ1200
Yamaha FJ1100
Honda Monkey-bike z50m 1967
Ducati Monster
Ducati ST2
Triumph Daytona 600 (daughters)
Honda CBR1000RR (daughters)

fj1289

Quote from: Russfjr1 on October 24, 2016, 01:38:52 PM
When I was working at Koenigsegg ...

WHAT!?  HOLD ON HERE!

Any chance a few "prototypes" could make it out the door for the 2018 attempt at the Colorado Mile?.....

gumby302ho

Quote from: racerrad8 on October 21, 2016, 08:54:42 PM
Watch the valve float at about 1:36 when the springs start to turn....

https://youtu.be/nsa6kq-qqIE

You want the valves to turn like this so they do not pit the seat or the valve. It starts around :56

https://youtu.be/vcyT18qk8ls

Electric/oil/air valves eliminate this valve float...F1 has been using this technology for years. That is how a F1 engine can turn close to 20k plus

This shit is bad ass...CRANK UP THE VOLUME (click the boxes off the video if they pop up)
https://youtu.be/iWSt4CDNvgQ


Randy - RPM

 I believe F1 engines use nitrogen instead of air for valve actuator setup from what I have read, not sure of the benefits of either method.

PaulG

Quote from: Russfjr1 on October 24, 2016, 01:38:52 PM
When I was working at Koenigsegg ....

And I thought you were just a gifted backyard mechanic.  Now you've blown your cover!   :lol:

Quote from: gumby302ho on October 24, 2016, 07:18:13 PM
  I believe F1 engines use nitrogen instead of air for valve actuator setup from what I have read, not sure of the benefits of either method.

I think they use nitrogen in their tires also.  Reason is that it expands much less under heat than air, thus maintaining a stabler tire pressure.  Maybe a related reason for the air valves?  :unknown:

Heres a vid from MotoGP - a few years old now - but interesting still.

MotoGP Workshop™ - Pneumatic valve engines

An article related to the vid

How Pneumatic Valves Work in MotoGP

Now I know why they are making such insane amounts of horsepower now.  This would explain why these bikes are unrideable without the electronics.  Maybe we'll see another change in engine spec soon.  3 cyl max? 500-750cc?

But if they sounded like this I'd be happy if they only went 100mph
Honda RC166





1992 FJ1200 ABS
YouTube Channel Paul G


Mike Ramos

Quote from: FeralRdr on October 23, 2016, 05:06:41 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on October 21, 2016, 12:06:34 PM
Recently I was peeking under a cover at an unnamed motorcycle shop and noticed a FJ cylinder head with the cams missing and all the cam journals milled out and recessed into the head, some sort of strange valve actuators with small hydraulic lines running to them.
Hmmmm, no cams?

Then last week, I saw this in my news feed:  http://www.popsci.com/9-greatest-innovations-in-automotives-this-year

Further investigations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4p-55a3WV8





So any truth to the rumors an RPM Flux Capictor is in the works too?  :good2:



I was recently at the RPM shop and prompted by Pat's initial post I also looked under the covering:

Hmm.... not sure about a Flux Capacitor but Pat, if you had looked a little closer into the details,  perhaps you would have imagined the increased valve angle (blank head as in the V & H's drag bike) thus allowing for more modern flow characteristics - when coupled with the valve actuators mentioned I can imagine very impressive HP & torque numbers...

Thanks for the suggestion Pat, it keeps things interesting and light hearted.

Midget


Russfjr1

Quote from: Russfjr1 on October 24, 2016, 01:38:52 PM
When I was working at Koenigsegg on the development of the powerplant all be it mostly v12 AMG we figured that with tweaking the tec we could knock off 4 cylinders thus using a v8, buy filling on board air tanks via pistons on over run with sufficient air pressure to take place of the turbos and give a rise of 34% power per litre. This we put to test on a Nissan Micra 1.0 made in 2001 with if memory serves 53bhp (at the engine not wheels). We made the head for it minus the cam and with a few other modifications to the inlet and exhaust tracks we managed 68% increase to 89bhp
OK i agree 89bhp is low but 68% is phenomenal, Just think if your bike or car or whatever machine has say 187bhp that goes to 314.16bhp combined with a cleaner more fuel efficient engine 

:biggrin:   Me working at Koenigsegg   :blush:  who'd a thunk it   :rofl2:   well you have to have a laugh now and again don't you  :mocking:  Sorry just a little porky pie, but I did do my apprenticeship at this little backwater company called Rolls Royce, now that place taught me a multitude. Looking back they were definitely the best days of my working life.  Happy days indeed   :drinks: 
It's about as useful as a chocolate fire guard
Current bikes in the stables

Yamaha FJ1200
Yamaha FJ1100
Honda Monkey-bike z50m 1967
Ducati Monster
Ducati ST2
Triumph Daytona 600 (daughters)
Honda CBR1000RR (daughters)

Pat Conlon

1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3