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Carburetor screws glued??

Started by Old Rider, September 04, 2016, 01:37:40 PM

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Old Rider


racerrad8

That is not anything that Yamaha ever used. It looks like some sort of vacuum drawn fuel enrichment system. It appears it is pulling fuel from the bottom of the bowls. The air flow at the air box must draw the additional fuel into the mouth of the carbs.

Is there a tube hanging don in the air box?

I would be interested to see more of the screws in the float bowls as well as the underside of the adjustable fitting on the air box.

Here is what the Yamaha float bowl screw looks like.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

Pat Conlon

I've never seen anything like that....

At least the bowl fittings and drain tubes would be a good idea for a drain system for storage.

{edit} OK, now I remember....that kit is called Dial-a-Jet: http://thunderproducts.com/dial-a-jet-automatic-fuel-induction-system/
I recall reading about this back in the mid 90's. The consensus was that it was not an optimum solution. The ability to rejet the pilots/needles/mains for specific low, mid and high end range was much more accurate.

This kit was marketed towards folks who did not want to open their carbs and change their jets. 

My advice to the Old Rider is to remove this kit, plug the holes, reinstall the float bowl drain screws (or as I said above keep the lines for a easily accessible drain system) and rejet your carbs properly.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

jscgdunn

These are great JIS screwdrivers:

92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

oldktmdude

Quote from: jscgdunn on September 06, 2016, 12:27:11 PM
These are great JIS screwdrivers:


Bought a set about 6 weeks ago. Great screwdrivers, should of had them years ago.  :good2:
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

giantkiller

Quote from: oldktmdude on September 07, 2016, 02:19:55 AM
Quote from: jscgdunn on September 06, 2016, 12:27:11 PM
These are great JIS screwdrivers:


Bought a set about 6 weeks ago. Great screwdrivers, should of had them years ago.  :good2:
Where does one find this set?
86 fj1350r
86 fj1380t turbo drag toy (soon)
87 fj1200 865 miles crashed for parts
89 fj1200 touring 2up
87 fzr1000 crashed
87 fzr750r Human Race teams world endurance champion
93 fzr600 Vance n hines ltd for sale
Custom chopper I built
Mini chopper I built for my daughter just like the big 1

jscgdunn

I was fortunate to find them at Princess Auto... I actually bought six sets and gave them as Xmas presents!

Look like online here:

http://www.vesseltools.com/hand-tools/screwdrivers/view-all-products.html
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

aviationfred

I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

Old Rider

Quote from: racerrad8 on September 06, 2016, 09:50:42 AM
That is not anything that Yamaha ever used. It looks like some sort of vacuum drawn fuel enrichment system. It appears it is pulling fuel from the bottom of the bowls. The air flow at the air box must draw the additional fuel into the mouth of the carbs.

Is there a tube hanging don in the air box?

I would be interested to see more of the screws in the float bowls as well as the underside of the adjustable fitting on the air box.

Here is what the Yamaha float bowl screw looks like.

Randy - RPM

Hi again i forgot to take pictures innside the airinntake ducts but there was a brass pipe going into the airinntake like a nossle in the end.
Todat i have replaced the carburettors and guess what it dosent start.It cranks over fast and it has spark on the plugs.The plugs was dry.
There is fuel in the carburettorbowels. I tryed spraying some carbcleaner into airfilterbox and then it fires but stops again.What can i do now??
as mentioned earlier the starnge hoses that goes from drainscrew on the carburettor and up and into the small boxes on top og airboxinntake rubbers.
I have troble to remember what order the hoses was connected.I marked 2 of then but the ink on the tape i used got off from fuelspill.
Do you think its crucial to make those hoses right placed??.Now i just conected hose from carburetor 4 to airboxinntake 4 and so on.

Charlie-brm

Quote from: jscgdunn on September 07, 2016, 10:52:25 AM
I was fortunate to find them at Princess Auto... I actually bought six sets and gave them as Xmas presents!

Look like online here:

http://www.vesseltools.com/hand-tools/screwdrivers/view-all-products.html

Over about five years of people online, mostly living in Ontario, saying they found Vessel brand on sale at Princess Auto, I've never seen them in the stores at any price and I go to three or four locations regularly.
And why they are not in the flyers when they are on sale or tagged on the shelf as a special item is a mystery to me. Not that things being a mystery to me is something new.

In the meantime this summer I was rummaging my drawer of way too many 1/4" shank bits and a few of the cheapest sets I have pushed to the back include ones marked PH and a bunch marked JIS, so I've had them available all this time. Probably not as good as dedicated name brand drivers. The Impacta design is a good idea. I have a mini impact holder for 1/4" bits, the size of a magic marker. Great for getting master cylinder flush screws started.

Here is a source for a set of JIS screwdrivers in London, Ontario at a reasonable price. Nice guy running a small operation. http://www.gofastinnovations.com/jisscrewdrivers.html
If someone wants to see any images I refer to in posts, first check my gallery here. If no bueno, send me a PM. More than glad to share.
Current Model: 1990 FJ1200 3CV since 2020
Past Models: 1984 FJ1100 - 2012 to 2020
1979 XS750SF - 2005 to 2012

Old Rider

A quick uppdate everything is fine now the engine runs smooth and with good power.Guess i have been lucky and dont need a carbrebuild this time.

Pat Conlon

Carb rebuild no, carb cleaning yes.

Good for you. :good2:
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3