A few things needed for my '86...

[Tor-King]

This may be a long shot, but I thought I would put it out there to see if anyone has the following things "kicking" around.  I want to bring my "red and white"  back to its original splendor.

1. air box with all the "guts" (I am sure there are quite a few dumped in the corner of someone's garage  )
2. a right side mirror (the original, long stalk)
3. side scoops (left and right, in white)
4. front fender, both halves (red)

I recently acquired this bike from a friend of mine and these are the only parts that did not accompany it; however there were TONS of duplicate/triplicate items that I will post in the future for those looking to improve/repair their rides...

Thanks!!
Dean

[andyoutandabout]

Fellow red and white owner, here are some thoughts on your dilemmas,
1) forget air box and get UNI pods that make things breathe easier and provide space to make getting the carbs on and off a breeze. While your in this area, do a re-jet. Not sure if you have to when changing to pods, but fattening up the lower end is common Fj practice.
2) you can get Emgo mirrors that fit nicely and look way better. They are a bit cheap and don't provide as good a view behind you, but mirrors don't improve performance so who cares. Besides shouldn't we be looking over our shoulders.
3) side scoops. No way out of this one. The recycle yards around Sacramento probably have them on the shelf. That's where mine came from.
4) fender, see above.

Andy

[Tor-King]

Thanks for your reply, Andy!
I am familiar with the mirror replacement (CBR mirrors), but already have a good left one but need only the right (I like the original look).  As far as the Uni's go, if I cannot find an original air box, I will go this route.  I already have 42.5 pilot jets to install.  The plastics may be the hard thing to find.  I already tried a few local recycle shops but have not had much luck.

I should have mentioned, I am in British Columbia.  If anyone has any of the parts that are listed in my original post, I would REALLY appreciate a PM with cost.

Thanks again,
Dean

[Sabre093]

I have a brand new set of UNI-PODS and a crank case breather....bought for my 86 but sold it and got a set with my 92....I'm in Canada let me know

[Earl Svorks]

Thanks for your reply, Andy!
I am familiar with the mirror replacement (CBR mirrors), but already have a good left one but need only the right (I like the original look).  As far as the Uni's go, if I cannot find an original air box, I will go this route.  I already have 42.5 pilot jets to install.  The plastics may be the hard thing to find.  I already tried a few local recycle shops but have not had much luck.

I should have mentioned, I am in British Columbia.  If anyone has any of the parts that are listed in my original post, I would REALLY appreciate a PM with cost.

Thanks again,
Dean

Dean, did you ever find an airbox? I'm in north Burnaby, I think I can help you with that.
    Cheers
    Simon

[Tor-King]

Hi there, Simon!
Thanks for your reply but I was able to find an original air box.
Have a good one,
Dean

[1fasteffjay]

Hey Dean, Merry Christmas! It is good to see that my dad and I aren't the only ones running airboxes still. I installed a k&n filter in mine and my dad has a uni filter, we believe they are up to the job of feeding four thirsty 36mm carbs   In addition to that I have read (on here) that running the carbs without the airbox can put a bit of stress on the rubber intake boots. Lastly, I feel that much more accomplised after I spend 45 minutes getting the airbox back in, hahaha.  

Jamie

[Tor-King]

Hi there, Jamie!  I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas as well!  I know, I am a purist.  My whole bike is stock and original, right down to the 16" front and rear wheels, anti-dive system, air box and calipers--the way I have come to love my '86.  One day, I will take my '88 and put on the latest upgrades and updates...
Have a good one,
Dean

[ribbert]

Hey Dean, Merry Christmas! It is good to see that my dad and I aren't the only ones running airboxes still. I installed a k&n filter in mine and my dad has a uni filter, we believe they are up to the job of feeding four thirsty 36mm carbs   In addition to that I have read (on here) that running the carbs without the airbox can put a bit of stress on the rubber intake boots. Lastly, I feel that much more accomplised after I spend 45 minutes getting the airbox back in, hahaha.  

Jamie

Jamie, there's nothing wrong with the standard airbox. It's very easy to get carried away on a mod obsessed forum and lose sight of the fact that a bog standard FJ is a very rideable bike.
Sure, many of the mods improve things but much of the gain is lost in the fact that many of these bikes are truly never ridden in a manner where the improvements are appreciated anyway.

There is not one iota of truth to the notion that pods hanging off the rubber manifolds adds stress. The pods weigh next to nothing and the manifolds are very solid and short.

If you have the right procedure, refitting an airbox is not even a big deal, 10 mins tops.

I have pods, but only for one reason, induction noise, I love it! Leaving aside the argument about better filtration and ease of removal/refitting (something we are spared in Oz with our fuel) I just love the sound but really hate the cleaning and re-oiling process.

I have one of each bike ('93), a standard one and the other has $11,000 dollars worth (parts only) of improvements. Yes, the improved one is better but in real terms, not that much. The only real issue with the standard bike being the 16" rear tyre, and only then when pushing it hard. Witin reason, you can ride around a lot of shorcomings.

Noel

[jscgdunn]

"If you have the right procedure, refitting an airbox is not even a big deal, 10 mins tops."

Noel,
I agree that the removal of the airbox is for convenience (and sound) only;  at least for seat-of-the-pants dyno I can see no performance advantage.  Would be great to see the "right procedure" documented.  I have found that the only way to minimize cuss words when installing the airbox is to have the subframe completely removed.   

Merry Christmas!

Jeff

[FJmonkey]

The best way I saw was with the rear subframe tilted down, a 2x4 (4x2) that fit across the 4 ports and another piece of wood to lever the air box back in. Having done this once I can say it works well. Not as easy as the pods and better sounding too.

[jscgdunn]

Mark,
You forgot the 8 pound sledge hammer.

[FJmonkey]

Mark,
You forgot the 8 pound sledge hammer.

No hammer required, just leverage. I guess that is a hammer of sorts, just very big and quite slow.

[ribbert]

The best way I saw was with the rear subframe tilted down, a 2x4 (4x2) that fit across the 4 ports and another piece of wood to lever the air box back in. Having done this once I can say it works well. Not as easy as the pods and better sounding too.

I have found the problem below more than once, something to check.

This might be of benefit to some. I don't believe I've ever seen this referred to here.
Last night I went to re install some FJ carbs I had removed earlier in the week and it was immediately obvious how difficult (near impossible) the air box would be to refit. As if it's not bad enough already.

These boots are non concentric with the holes in the air box, so, as you rotate them their position changes, up, down, left and right, individually.

These lugs locate them in the correct position to line up with the carbies. If they are not lined up it makes a difficult job even harder, or, even impossible. The boots on the one I removed showed signs of stretching and were so far out I have no idea how they were made to fit.

The lug on the boot sits between the lugs on the box.



Noel

Noel