Bike lock

PaulG · April 11, 2016, 06:05:36 PM

Bought one of these at the Spring Bike Show in Toronto this weekend. They are probably familiar to the guys in NZ & Oz but are new here. Just thought I'd post in case anyone is looking for something other than a disc lock or cable.

http://www.grip-lock.com/home-en/

The guy also said you can loop your helmet through at the same time to lock it in too.

FJmonkey · April 11, 2016, 09:35:11 PM

Way better than a disc lock, you are not likely to forget it is on and try to ride away.

The General · April 12, 2016, 01:43:26 AM

Is it possible to just undo the screw where lever fixes/hinges to master, then drive it off without front brakes...no doubt they`ve got that covered somehow?

4everFJ · April 12, 2016, 03:37:11 AM

Quote from: The General on April 12, 2016, 01:43:26 AM
Is it possible to just undo the screw where lever fixes/hinges to master, then drive it off without front brakes...no doubt they`ve got that covered somehow?

Yes, that would be a 10 second job...

Can't see how this lock can be secure?

wainot-Phil · April 12, 2016, 06:44:57 AM

hi..from Aussie,,
I bought a really solid steel Disc Lock a few weeks ago ,,which also has a VERY VERY Loud Alarm inside of it as well .
If you so much as move or shake the Bike at all ,it sends out 3 warning beeps,then after 10 seconds the Alarm will sound ,
VERY VERY Loud .You just unlock it to stop the alarm,
I don,t use it on the Disc's ,but you can if you like,
I drilled a hole in on of my rear Pannier brackets and lock it on to that,
As soon as you sit on the Bike or stand the Bike up .. it will go Beep ,Beep ,Beep AND then you have 10 seconds to unlock it ,
before all hell breaks loose,,
The Best part was that it only cost $25.00 ,,
Great idea.

red · April 12, 2016, 10:20:21 AM

I think, if the lock was holding some good pressure on the hand lever, the brake pivot bolt would be difficult (but maybe not impossible) to remove.
You don't lock things up from thieves; locks only discourage honest people.

The YouTube BMW video review notes that if you have V-Strom type hand-guards, they could block the use of the key.
The video rated it as three, out of a possible five.
I like this gadget. Pricey though, at US$70.00 from Aerostich.

Cheers,
Red

PaulG · April 12, 2016, 10:36:49 AM

The hinge pin is driven in from one side only with a set crew on the inside. So probably more than a 10sec job. You can steal anything eventually with the right tools and time I guess. If it's going to take them more than 10sec to do it, then it's done it's job as they won't bother.

Maybe this explains it better

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-lock/grip-lock/

I also have a disc lock (with the old-timey-strechy telephone cable to loop up to the clip-on so you don't forget). I never use it 99% of the time, except when I go on extended trips. So now I have two for those scary paranoid nights in El Fleabag M tel.

BTW - usual discalimer: I'm not affilliated in any way with this product or persons selling it.

4everFJ · April 12, 2016, 10:46:01 AM

Quote from: PaulG on April 12, 2016, 10:36:49 AM
The hinge pin is driven in from one side only with a set crew on the inside. So probably more than a 10sec job. You can steal anything eventually with the right tools and time I guess. If it's going to take them more than 10sec to do it, then it's done it's job as they won't bother.

Okay, then maybe a 15 seconds job...

In any case, much faster (and quieter...) than breaking up a good chain or disc lock

Pat Conlon · April 12, 2016, 02:52:54 PM

Open the bleeder screws on the calipers....a 5 second job.

Very few stolen bikes are started and ridden away....They are rolled onto a trailer or the back of a van.

FJmonkey · April 12, 2016, 03:08:02 PM

Quote from: Pat Conlon on April 12, 2016, 02:52:54 PM
Open the bleeder screws on the calipers....a 5 second job.

Very few stolen bikes are started and ridden away....They are rolled onto a trailer or the back of a van.

Great, now I need to order a lock for my bleed screws!!! And brake lines that can't be cut!!! And, and, and...

4everFJ · April 12, 2016, 03:10:39 PM

Quote from: Pat Conlon on April 12, 2016, 02:52:54 PM
Open the bleeder screws on the calipers....a 5 second job.

Very few stolen bikes are started and ridden away....They are rolled onto a trailer or the back of a van.

Yep, that's how the bastards do it

4everFJ · April 12, 2016, 03:14:39 PM

You could also get one of these, then you do not need a lock

https://rideapart.com/articles/10-new-motorcycles-wont-ever-get-stolen

Pat Conlon · April 12, 2016, 03:22:22 PM

Just anchor the bike to an immovable object to make rollaways more difficult. (but not impossible)

A disk lock with loud siren along with a silent pager type alarm (with good range) will help.

When you get the page at 4am... A .45 with hollow points is also good to have with you, when you investigate.

Don't go alone, a buddy with a back up piece, is also good to have.

I'm not sure about a LoJack. I think on our FJ's they can easily be found and defeated. Just a hunch.

PaulG · April 12, 2016, 05:27:56 PM

Quote from: Pat Conlon on April 12, 2016, 03:22:22 PM
Just anchor the bike to an immovable object to make rollaways more difficult. (but not impossible)

A disk lock with loud siren along with a silent pager type alarm (with good range) will help.

When you get the page at 4am... A .45 with hollow points is also good to have with you, when you investigate.

Don't go alone, a buddy with a back up piece, is also good to have.

I'm not sure about a LoJack. I think on our FJ's they can easily be found and defeated. Just a hunch.

After spending all that money on such sundries, my "security" system will be worth more than the bike.

I won't get into carry permits for handguns (as they are near impossible to get in Canada except for certain types of security) - wouldn't want to start a tirade regarding all that stuff...

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