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Flooding carb

Started by Dan88, February 23, 2016, 03:06:31 PM

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jscgdunn

O-rings: I generally replace the needle seat when rebuilding and get the new O-rings.  Have replaced one set of O-rings chasing a leak (thanks George!).  Often see the recommendation to replace the O-rings when this problem occurs,  however I do not understand how a bad O-ring can leak intermittently;  would it not leak all the time?.  Thoughts anyone?
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

movenon

My only thought is if you pull the needle and seats to clean them then don't reassemble with the old O rings.  I agree it shouldn't be an interment leak with a bad O ring.  More likely crap in the seat, binding float pivot, or floats not adjusted correctly (float height, make sure the floats are not rubbing against bowl sides, floats at the same height on each side to prevent binding on the pin, check for float binding on pivot pin due to crap or scored pin, float spring clip to needle binding etc.). Things to think about.
George 
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

jscgdunn

Makes sense George....

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Jeff
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

Nig

Three things to check that may be causing problems.
1/ Needles and seats mismatched, probably from different manufacturer. I found needles recently replaced, sticking in the seat bore.
2/ Tab on float arm that pushes the needle can wear a small dint on high mileage carbs, stopping smooth operation of needle.
3/  If you run the carbs out of fuel one or more needle can protrude enough to jam and not re enter seat.
1984 FJ 1100  purchased as a non goer. Been registered and on the the road since September 2015

ribbert

Quote from: Nig on February 25, 2016, 05:37:27 AM
Three things to check that may be causing problems.
1/ Needles and seats mismatched, probably from different manufacturer. I found needles recently replaced, sticking in the seat bore.
2/ Tab on float arm that pushes the needle can wear a small dint on high mileage carbs, stopping smooth operation of needle.
3/  If you run the carbs out of fuel one or more needle can protrude enough to jam and not re enter seat.

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movenon

Carbs are easy, it is just all the small details :).  I say "just". When removing the float pins do it in a manor that will not break the pin posts. Detail, details....
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

theLeopard

Quote from: Dan88 on February 23, 2016, 03:06:31 PMFuel then started running out somewhere from underneath the carbs. 
Where is it leaking from?
If it's leaking from the carb overflow (there are 4) your floats are stuck. This will trickle.
If it's leaking from the large solenoid connected to your main fuel line the solenoid spring has failed. That will flood.
1992 FJ1200

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