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polishing the fork legs

Started by rollinghelmet, November 21, 2015, 09:00:17 PM

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rollinghelmet

My fork seals have started leaking after less than 10000 km
Next time I change them do I use wet sand paper and then polish
what type of sand paper grit and polish
What brand fork seals are good

Mark Olson

Best to use Yamaha fork seals or get them from RPM Randy.
The cheepo seals will leak in a hurry.
As for polishing the legs, I use an old crankshaft polishing belt with wd-40. If you are anywhere near an automotive machine shop , you can get one for the price of a beer and a funny story.
Emery cloth is the other way to go.
Mark O.
86 fj1200
sac ca.

                           " Get off your ass and Ride"

Pat Conlon

Use a paint stripper to get the clear coat off...don't sand it. After that, use progressively 400/800/1000/2000 grit wet/dry paper. Fold the sand paper so you don't get pressure spots. Use this paper wet. Get a spray bottle. Keep the paper and aluminum surface wet. Spray lots of water, it keeps the paper from loading up. Sit in a chair with a folded towel draped over your knees. A wet crotch is uncomfortable.
Avoid ripples. Long even strokes. Take your time. Sing to them while you sand, they'll be happy.

Finish off with multiple coats of Simichrome

Figure about 1 hour per leg. It's fun. The results are worth it.
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Mark Olson

Uh, I took it to mean he wanted to polish the legs the seals slide on.
Mark O.
86 fj1200
sac ca.

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oldktmdude

Quote from: Mark Olson on November 21, 2015, 10:26:59 PM
Uh, I took it to mean he wanted to polish the legs the seals slide on.

That was my understanding as well. Next time you replace your seals also replace the slide bushes. You may have some wear in them allowing lateral movement at the seals. Always polish the chromes slides in a circumferential direction not longitudinal, scouring pads are usually sufficient to do this job.
Regards, Pete. 
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2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
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Pat Conlon

The title was "polishing the fork legs" so that's what I went with.... :flag_of_truce:

On the stanchion tubes: yeppers to Pete and Mark....circumferential with scotch brite pad
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2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

movenon

Here is something to look at before you pull the front forks apart. I can't vouch for it even though I have 2 or 3 of those Seal Mates somewhere around here. I have never used one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEzjdFQp6IM

If you have to replace the seals then as recommended, use the Yamaha seals.
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

rollinghelmet

Thanks for the advice, I did mean polishing the fork legs so the fork seals do not wear out as quick
I have replaced all the fork slide bushes but i did not use yamaha fork seals
Are rpms fork values and springs really as good as the website and people go on about
I do like stiff suspension but the small bumps get annoying on the standard setup

ct7088

Yes the RPM Fork Valves/Race Tech Spring combination means you don't need grip the handlebars with every ounce of strength when hitting sharp bumps at highway speed.
Chris

chiz

About a year ago I did the front and rear wheel swap, the forks I got off the web were bent so I just used the lowers with the seals that they came with. One of my old forks had continued to leak even after a seal change

   I don't know what seals are in the the legs I got off the web  but they have not leaked since I put them on... must be an original part or a Randy replacement.n

racerrad8

The key is to "polish" the fork tubes. If you scratch the chrome plating they will leak sooner and more than before.

You need to use a fine grit "crocus cloth" only on the chrome plating.

If you have some worn-out scotch brite pad then you can use that too, but if new it scratches the chrome too.

Also you cannot run any abrasive up & down the length of the tube, it should only be polished around the circumference as you slowly go from the top & bottom. If you go up & down you are just putting gouges in the chrome that allows the oil to leak by the seal.

Then you need to use the N.O.K. brand seal, which is what Yamaha supplied, which has proven to be the best seal for the application.

I have the NOK seals in stock; RPM Fork Seal Kit
Yes, the RPM fork valves are all that you have read and more... :hi:

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

JMR

 It's nice if you can chuck them up in a lathe.

CutterBill

Can't let this slide...

The only thing you should be using to "polish" the fork tubes is a clean rag.  The seals rely on an almost-mirror finish to work.  If you are using something that leaves any kind of mark on the chrome, you are ruining it. 

Now, having said that, if you have a stone chip that raises metal above the surface of the chrome, you can salvage the fork tube by using a very smooth file to gently file the offending metal down to the surface of the chrome.  This way, at least the raised edge won't be snagging the seal every time it passes by.  It won't be a proper fix, but the alternative... replacing the tube... just isn't feasible.

But if you have scratches which are below the surface of the chrome, you are not going to sand/grind/file/polish the surrounding area down to the level of the bottom of the scratch.  And adding more scratches... "polishing"... isn't going to help.

The worst thing the bike makers ever did was to get rid of the rubber fork gaiters, just because "real" racers don't use them.  Dumb...
Bill
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2015 Super Tenere
2002 Honda Goldwing

chiz

Hi

  I can get fork tubes redone up here at North American Chrome in Burlington But the bloody bent tubes they cant do because now a days they are thin wall and are easily dented.

  Chiz

racerrad8

Exactly, Bill, you cannot scratch the chrome surface.

FYI, replacement fork tubes are available and in stock.

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