up front

[Burns]

there is a complete - wheel to master cylinder - front end from a Hayabusa,  delivered for under 600 US dollars; should I buy it and if not what other front end beats this deal on a bang for the buck basis?

thank you gentlemen

[aviationfred]

With a $600.00 budget, I would go with a 2008 GSXR1000 front end and talk to Dan (giantkiller) for the info on the mod. He has 2 FJ's with this mod.


Fred

[Burns]

thanks Fred. Wheel and all I think that will be closer to a grand, but I will check it out.

[giantkiller]

Soon to have a third (Turbo bike will have it too)

[Burns]

been chattin' with GK and jt looks like this is a great swap but would be well North of a thousand bucks.

[fj1289]

there is a complete - wheel to master cylinder - front end from a Hayabusa,  delivered for under 600 US dollars; should I buy it and if not what other front end beats this deal on a bang for the buck basis?

thank you gentlemen

What are the goals?  True bang for buck is upgrade your current front end...but I have a feeling going upside down is part of the priorities - which I get (did 1st gen R1 forks about 13 years ago).  Almost no matter what you do will be an improvement - but getting the valving dialed in can take a bit of time and money

[fj1289]

Also, out of curiosity, what does the swap require for the steering stem?

[jscgdunn]

With most front end swaps the process would be the same as in this one:

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=3148.30

I have found that late model ZX14 swap is a bit more straight forward.  The bottom triple bearing actually interchanges with FJ frame, and the top bearing inner diameter is the same as the zx14 at the top triple nut.  More on this later.....will post up a pic.  ZX14 front ends are similar price on ebay.

[jscgdunn]

ZX14 triple vs FJ Triple
So put a pic in my gallery but not sure how to put it in post from there.....

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=9227

Any way the link works; ho do you post form the gallery?

Note as well that the stem lengths are very similar; I guess you can see where this is going.....

Jeff

[giantkiller]

That's very interesting. Jeff have you actually tried it in the frame? Also is rake and trail set close to the fj? And 3rd question. Is the zx fork exactly 50mm? Or is it one of the oddball 47/51/52mm. Oh yah 4th question. What year/years is it. The gsxr rake trail ignition locations etc. Change quite a bit through the years.

[giantkiller]

Just checked the pic. It looks like the steering stops might be the same?

Thanks for posting this

Dan

[great white]

Lets see if this works:

[jscgdunn]

That's very interesting. Jeff have you actually tried it in the frame? Also is rake and trail set close to the fj? And 3rd question. Is the zx fork exactly 50mm? Or is it one of the oddball 47/51/52mm. Oh yah 4th question. What year/years is it. The gsxr rake trail ignition locations etc. Change quite a bit through the years.

Yes, I have the bottom race installed in the frame and triple inserted. I need to get to my lathe guy to turn the top down.
Good question on the fork....I do not have those measures here but it is a larger diameter fork that the 2008 R1.

rake/trail: 23 degrees / 94 mm (3.7 in)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_Ninja_ZX-14

Parts are 2008

Steering stops are very close to same but sit out farther; will need a small extension welded on.

In terms of the parts they are pretty reasonable except for calipers: the z1000 guys are buying them up as they fit and are a bit better.  z1000 calipers are cheap as a result and readily available.  

This guy: www.402bike.com has a bunch of brand new ZX14 takeoffs as well....I got my back wheel from him.

[fj1289]

That's very interesting. Jeff have you actually tried it in the frame? Also is rake and trail set close to the fj? And 3rd question. Is the zx fork exactly 50mm? Or is it one of the oddball 47/51/52mm. Oh yah 4th question. What year/years is it. The gsxr rake trail ignition locations etc. Change quite a bit through the years.

rake wont change - that's set in the steering head and I'm pretty sure there are no sportbikes with "raked" trees - the offset of the upper and lower clamps should be the same.  Offset will effect the trail along with fork length and chassis attitude...stock FJ offset is 35mm - less offset will give more trail, but might be good if you raise the rear ride height and/or the forks are shorter. 

[giantkiller]

Thanks fj 1289.  I always get them mixed up. I will need to know what the off set is if you can Jeff
Thanks again
Dan