Road rage..

pdxfj · July 17, 2015, 03:09:39 PM

Time to have a helmet cam running whenever you're on the bike. While things like this have been quite rare in the past, it seems to be happening more often now and days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZueHaDP4hU

JoBrCo · July 17, 2015, 03:24:42 PM

That's some crazy shit.

I probably would have really fucked up and kicked the dude.

When I can afford it, I'm definately buying one. It might help keep my defensive stance from exploding.

FJ's Forever

JoBrCo

novaraptor · July 20, 2015, 11:46:29 AM

Yup. I mounted a cheap video cam to my helmet a few months ago.. A cool-cam s3000 from Walmart for about $65.00, plus an old photomount connector. People seem so much nicer when they notice the cam... Oh, and another reason to wear a helmet....

ZOA NOM · July 20, 2015, 01:21:36 PM

EPIC. Outstanding calm shown by rider & GF. Dude got seriously laid when they got home.

pdxfj · July 20, 2015, 01:36:50 PM

Latest information on this:

Update 07/16/15: I've been informed that on the day of the incident a police officer smelt alcohol on the mans breathe, when asked if he had been drinking he admitted to having 4-5 shots of whiskey prior. His full list of pending charged are as follows:
Disorderly Conduct x2
Endangerment x2
Threatening x2
Assault x2
DUI x1
The investigation is complete and has been forwarded to the state prosecution, I've been told it will take 30-90 days before he goes to court and/or is sentenced.

Firehawk068 · July 20, 2015, 03:33:44 PM

Nice!
Glad to see it worked out as it should have.

PaulG · July 20, 2015, 04:23:46 PM

Quote from: pdxfj on July 20, 2015, 01:36:50 PM
....The investigation is complete and has been forwarded to the state prosecution, I've been told it will take 30-90 days before he goes to court and/or is sentenced.

In Ontario it would take a few weeks or months for arraignment, then another 2 years before it gets to trial. Unfortunately, it would probably be me in court not him. That little angel on my shoulder saying "Don't do it!" would have faded in the distance, with the inevitable thwack-thump that follows.

I've had a helmet cam for two years for filming day trips or vacations. If I wear it all the time now maybe that little angle can take a rest. If it enrages the asshole even more, well....

krusty · July 20, 2015, 08:05:01 PM

Can't do that here in Oz, fixing a cam to your helmet is illegal.

Arnie · July 20, 2015, 10:39:52 PM

Quote from: krusty on July 20, 2015, 08:05:01 PM
Can't do that here in Oz, fixing a cam to your helmet is illegal.

In what state is this the case?
IF there actually is such a restriction, Has it ever been used to convict or fine anyone?

krusty · July 21, 2015, 01:02:22 AM

It was in NSW when I was a riding instructor, along with repainting or adding stickers. Any mods or alterations invalidate the Approval/Product Certification i.e. AS/NZ 1698. I would assume that this would apply in all states as it is a national certification but I could be wrong. If the helmet is modified in any way then the offense would be the wearing of a non approved helmet with the fine being same as if not wearing a helmet. Even removal of the approval AS/NZ1698 sticker would have the same effect. I don't know if its been tested (in court) and I'm not about to try.

Urban_Legend · July 21, 2015, 01:48:08 AM

Quote from: krusty on July 21, 2015, 01:02:22 AM
It was in NSW when I was a riding instructor, along with repainting or adding stickers. Any mods or alterations invalidate the Approval/Product Certification i.e. AS/NZ 1698. I would assume that this would apply in all states as it is a national certification but I could be wrong. If the helmet is modified in any way then the offense would be the wearing of a non approved helmet with the fine being same as if not wearing a helmet. Even removal of the approval AS/NZ1698 sticker would have the same effect. I don't know if its been tested (in court) and I'm not about to try.

The helmet laws (i.e with regards to helmet cams) is.being put to the test in Victoria now, after several riders had been fined for "not wearing a helmet" when the cams were attached to their helmets. There has been a big who har about it in Queensland too. You also have to be careful with the cams, because if you have been naughty, the cops can confiscate the and use them as evidence .

Mark

Urban_Legend · July 21, 2015, 01:50:23 AM

But for this rider. I think we will be my new hero. Great restraint not to smack the crap out of the idiot.

Mark

Bones · July 21, 2015, 02:49:34 AM

Quote from: Urban_Legend on July 21, 2015, 01:48:08 AM
Quote from: krusty on July 21, 2015, 01:02:22 AM
It was in NSW when I was a riding instructor, along with repainting or adding stickers. Any mods or alterations invalidate the Approval/Product Certification i.e. AS/NZ 1698. I would assume that this would apply in all states as it is a national certification but I could be wrong. If the helmet is modified in any way then the offense would be the wearing of a non approved helmet with the fine being same as if not wearing a helmet. Even removal of the approval AS/NZ1698 sticker would have the same effect. I don't know if its been tested (in court) and I'm not about to try.
The helmet laws (i.e with regards to helmet cams) is.being put to the test in Victoria now, after several riders had been fined for "not wearing a helmet" when the cams were attached to their helmets. There has been a big who har about it in Queensland too. You also have to be careful with the cams, because if you have been naughty, the cops can confiscate the and use them as evidence .

Mark

With the legalities about helmet cams being put to the test, don't bike cops wear cameras on their helmets already, so how can they fine you for wearing one when their doing the same thing.

Urban_Legend · July 21, 2015, 03:22:58 AM

Yes they do Bones. They wear tinted visors too which they have also been booking riders for, claiming they also invalidate the safety of the helmet.

jo-sommer · July 21, 2015, 07:21:32 AM

Funny regulations there Down Under...

in Germany you would be fined for taking unauthorized footage/pictures of public areas and people who didn't agree to this in advance and the evidence wouldn't be accepted at Court. Same as dashcams...

But anyway, respect to this calm guy; if this would have been Happening to me, the fine for the unauthorized pictures would have been the minor part.

About three years ago I was on my way to work when I had to change the Autobahn; the exit had two lanes and I slowed down to queue in to the right.
A guy in a small Suzuki car with lots of tuning stickers etc. didn't like that; he passed me and pulled over when my front wheel was at the height of his rear wheel.
So I had to brake hard, just thinking "OK, one idiot...".

I left some space to his car following him through the exit, then we both pulled out to the left two lanes; still me following him at a speed of 80-90 km/h at a distance of app. 15-20 mtr. Noticeing he won't accelerate further I changed the lane to the full left one, accelerating to pass him. When he noticed this, he also started to accelerate, so I opened the throttle a bit more (Suzuki GSXR 1100, app. 195 hp...). As I started to pass him our eyes met in his left mirror, he started to grin and pulled over.
I had to evade to the grass, my knee scratched the guardrail to the opposite lanes at a Speed of 150 km/h. I managed to keep the rubber of my bike down and get back onto the lane.
The guy in his little car opened his throttle full and tried to get away....

My thoughts: I just filled up the tank, 250 kms range - let's go. I'll stop you and rip your head off before I sh... into your throat!

His Suzuki was running quite fast; at a speed of 190 km/h I noticed blue flashing lights behind me, thinking: damned bullshit, now I'll get fined for speeding instead of this idiot... so I pulled over to the right slowing down.

The cops passed me and followed him - I was totally surprised.

So I speeded up again, following the policecar. App. 2 km furtheron he pulled over to the right and stopped, the cops behind him and me behind the cops...

Two cops jumped out of the car, one pulling that little bastard out of his car and one rushed over to me, advising me to stay on the bike. He just said "WE'll take care of this idiot!".

I found out that they observed the whole thing from the beginning; I just didn't notice them. One of them has been on duty at the motorcycle division for 15 years; he told me my driving wasn't too bad staying on the bike in the green...

The Suzuki driver was a 19 year old Boy, upcoming testosterone without any brain... finally sentenced to a 5.000 Euro fine, 2 years confinement (on probation for 3 years) and the loss of his drivers license for 2 years with an obligation for a psychological assessment prior of claiming for getting it back.

btw, the attorney in this trial is also a biker, often together with that one cop. He told me that those road rage incidents are mostly not a matter of "young guns", 65% would be of an age of 40+ .

Cheers Jo

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