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Started by Troyskie, July 07, 2015, 10:48:29 PM

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FJools

I was waiting for a comment..............

The max HP was actually 105 with the run when the clutch slipped but they didn't include that run on the combined sheet..............

(told you the excuses would be flying)

I've ordered Viton seals from RPM and an oil cooler. My original is getting a bit pebble dashed.

Also ordered some chinese rotors to replace the Sh*te prolites that are on there, on the recommendations of the guys this weekend.

I also have to thank Noel for watching me remove the fairing in the time honoured fashion before showing me the quick way of unbolting the subframe  :shout:
Still thinking of something..................

oldktmdude

   While we're on the subject of excuses, if you're wondering about the undulations in the HP line of my bike (blue line) it was caused by a tight spot in my drive chain. Simon (the dyno tech) advised me to go up a jet size and 130hp (rear wheel) would be possible. Just ordered jets and new chain and sprockets, will go back and re-test on dyno when fitted.  :yahoo:  Pete.
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

X-Ray

Looked like a great day/night out and the dyno runs make for interesting reading. Will be great to catch up in March to hear the dyno stories etc  :drinks:
'94 FJ1200 Wet Pale Brown
'93 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver
'84 FJ1100 Red/White

'91 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver ( Now Sold)
'92 FJ1200 Project/Resto Dark Violet/Silver (Now Sold)






For photos of my rear wheel swap, heres the link  https://www.flickr.com/gp/150032671@N02/62k3KZ

FJools

Here is the unedited version slipping clutch run in Blue

Still thinking of something..................

Sparky84

Morning All,

Thank you Troy for all your effort in setting up everything single handed for the weekend, and yes your small shed has me extremely jealous
I do wish I had more time there but it was my pleasure to meet all you fellow FJ enthusiasts

Hey Pete would you be going back to Simon for re-test on Dyno and if so let me know as I would like to get mine done seeing I missed the Dyno session, Simon seemed like he did a good job for you all.

Noel next time I'll bring those cans of VHT SP188 (and I do hope your alarm finally woke you for Tea)

Thanks again Troy. (when your fully armed again give me a bell and we'll go for a ride)
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

oldktmdude

Quote from: Sparky84 on November 30, 2015, 05:10:04 PM
Hey Pete would you be going back to Simon for re-test on Dyno and if so let me know as I would like to get mine done seeing I missed the Dyno session, Simon seemed like he did a good job for you all.
G'day Alan, yes I will be going back for a re-test. Already re-jetted and drilled ports as Simon has suggested. Simon certainly does know his shit when it comes to the dyno. I'm just waiting for a new timing chain and drive chain and sprockets to arrive. Once I've fitted them I'll get in touch with you and we'll organise another session on the dyno. With the minor changes that I'm doing, Simon reckons I should get at least 130hp at the rear wheel.  :good2:
Regards, Pete.
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

Bones

Hey Pete, is your engine standard or have you had some work done to it. Not a bad result on the dyno, almost exactly the same as the Kwaka, pretty good seeing the FJ new was quoted at 125hp (assuming at the crank), but if it's from tuning only are you willing to share some of your secrets.

By the way, who's the distinguished looking gent in the photos with the blue shirt and cargo pants, that wouldn't be the master mechanic from Melbourne would it.   :biggrin:
93 fj1200
79 suzuki gt250x7


Too young to be old but old enough to know better.

X-Ray

It is Tony! It's the elusive one that maybe we might finally get to meet in March, (you really should go
'94 FJ1200 Wet Pale Brown
'93 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver
'84 FJ1100 Red/White

'91 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver ( Now Sold)
'92 FJ1200 Project/Resto Dark Violet/Silver (Now Sold)






For photos of my rear wheel swap, heres the link  https://www.flickr.com/gp/150032671@N02/62k3KZ

oldktmdude

Quote from: Bones on December 01, 2015, 01:34:37 AM
Hey Pete, is your engine standard or have you had some work done to it. Not a bad result on the dyno, almost exactly the same as the Kwaka, pretty good seeing the FJ new was quoted at 125hp (assuming at the crank), but if it's from tuning only are you willing to share some of your secrets.

By the way, who's the distinguished looking gent in the photos with the blue shirt and cargo pants, that wouldn't be the master mechanic from Melbourne would it.   :biggrin:
Tony, it has a few basic mods, Wiseco 1219 kit, Unipods, V&H 4into 1 (well, half of one) and re-jetting. I have just gone up a couple of sizes for the mains, as it ran out of fuel at the top-end of the rev range. This should increase it to at least 130 rwhp. FJ1200 spec's quote 130hp at the crankshaft, Simon (dyno tech) told me that you usually lose between 17 to 20 % at the rear wheel, so my 130rwhp should be around 152hp at the crankshaft. I'll find out when I take it back for a re-test after I've finished making the suggested changes.
It was amazing just how close Alf's ZRX1200 and my bike were in both torque and horsepower. The sound of my bike at full noise, even through a sound deadened room was fantastic. To say it was loud would be an understatement.
Regards, Pete.
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

Sparky84

 Already re-jetted and drilled ports as Simon has suggested. Simon certainly does know his shit when it comes to the dyno.
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Don't muck around do you Pete,
What size did you go from and to with your re-jetting?

Alan
1984 FJ1100
1979 Kawasaki Z1300
1972 Honda CB750/4 K2

FJools

Quote from: Sparky84 on December 01, 2015, 05:13:09 AM
Already re-jetted and drilled ports as Simon has suggested. Simon certainly does know his shit when it comes to the dyno.

Don't muck around do you Pete,
What size did you go from and to with your re-jetting?

Alan
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Alan - He's a handy man , that says it all.  :good2:
Still thinking of something..................

oldktmdude

Quote from: Sparky84 on December 01, 2015, 05:13:09 AM
Don't muck around do you Pete,
What size did you go from and to with your re-jetting?
Alan
Main jet size went from 122.5 up to 127.5. I had the larger jets sitting in my cupboard at home so no waiting for new ones to arrive. Just waiting on new
cam-chain and new drive-chain and sprockets to get here so a test ride can happen. Will be interesting to see the results.
Regards, Pete.
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

wainot

Hi Phil here from Sussex Inlet.
I would just like to 2nd everyone's  else's  remarks and say a big  'THANK YOU'  very much to Troy for making me and everyone else feel most welcome over the past weekend at his great Ranch on the outskirts of Nowra
It was a pleasure to meet  you Troy and a pleasure to meet all the other FJ riders and friends over the 2 days.
I say I came away thinking what a great bunch of easy going blokes and I felt right at home talking to all.
It was a shame that I was unable to stay the Saturday night  to have a few Beers and a story or 2 or 3 or 4 .
-------So  THANK YOU  very much to all--------
I  spent 4 hours last night working on the FJ1200.
I found that I had the same problem that you had "'Jools""  .My front light had taken a hit at one time and had a broken side mount and also one of the top rubber mounts that the Speedo cluster sits into was missing.
Lucky  I had another  FJ1200 light  in the shed .(which I bought  a year ago with some other parts for my FJ1100).
the bloke sold it to me saying it was a FJ1100 Light. So it all worked out in the long run,
My light is sitting in the fairing as it should be now and also my Speedo cluster is now rubber mounted ,and springs back and foward when you push on it (like  it's meant to me)
While I had the front of the fairing off ,  I took the opportunity to take the  top off the motor
and I checked all the valve's . They were all good. All within spec .
  SO ALL IS GOOD ,,
  THANKS to all again  regards   Phil  (wainot)


Thanks to 

ribbert

Whoa.... no need to lock up the women and children, this is a one off post.

I just wanted to thank Troy publicly for hosting the manshed weekend and to say what a treat it was to meet up with so many other FJer's. For all my years on the forum, I had to date only met two members.

It is was a bold effort on Troys part opening up his home (resort) for a bunch of crusty old bikers, most of whom he had never met before. Also thanks to Mrs Troy for allowing it. She demonstrated good sense in deciding a weekend away with the kids was in order.

Troy was a gracious and generous host and had gone to the trouble of organising two events that were an enormous hit, a dyno run and a fridge full of beer, the latter fueling much conversation about the former. Good lubrication is as essential to motorbike talk as it is to motorbikes.

The conversation was easy and while much time was devoted to philosophy and fine art, Spicer gear boxes also got a good a run.

It was good that Richard (Rover) timed his 3 week dirt road Odyssey up and down the East coast of Australia to coincide with the weekend and it was great meeting him. His bike was only running on one cylinder but it didn't seem to slow him down. Having looked through all the photos of his trip so far he was clearly having the time of his life, and still had a week to go.

Troy was not kidding when he warned late and early arrivees of the kangaroo threat. I was forced to run the gauntlet, arriving late because of puncture but didn't see a single roo. It was only when I arrived I realised why, they were all at his place! This shot was taken from his front yard.



Rally Teaser.

I put in 2500 kms over the weekend and all bar a couple of hour run down the highway Sunday morning, had 4 days of the best riding imaginable.
It seemed hard to grasp leaving Troys coastal paradise with its sub tropical humidity and vegetation and finishing up here later in the day, Charlotte Pass, the highest point on the highest road in Australia.





The angle of the trees bears witness to the prevailing winds up there.

Most of the Wombats I saw were roadkill, left in the middle of the road for someone else to hit however this one appeared to be sleeping off the night before...... I think. He didn't look too good though.



I rode many of the roads those of you heading South for the rally will no doubt travel on. Bloody spectacular!

Gentlemen, you rally route awaits you. This is before the good stuff starts.



This is well above the inversion layer and the sky colour fantastic.





Australia is not Europe, this is our effort at an alpine tunnel.(that's a ski run over the top)



The weather was as good as it gets and I had the roads to myself, by this I mean cars at the rate of the 2 or 3 and hour all day!



Gentlemen, there are roads in here to be ridden!

I came into Harrietville (the rally location) over Mt Hotham and it just doesn't get any better. Doug, those guys in the video you posted were wasting a perfectly good road riding like old women.

When you come down the Mountain, the Snowline Hotel is literally only 100 metres past the last curve and you have to brake to avoid over shooting it. Harrietville is one of those calender pretty villages that would be near impossible to take a bad photo of and the traders love motorbikes (and increasingly hate cyclists)

I called in and paid my deposit for the rally and this joint just has drunk, bullshitting, overweight, old enough to know better, the older I get the faster I was, double clutch spring, arthritic old farts.... motorbike rally written all over it, and wow, what a location.

Pete (oldktmdude) had just ridden around here for 6 days recently, for the first time, and his enthusiasm for the area made Steve Irwin look like he was on Valium.

See you all there, not long now.

Aaaaaaannnnnd, while I'm here, I see tyre widths being discussed again. Tyres are like oil to me, unless you are riding the wheels off it, use whatever size you like, you will probably never feel the difference. If it fits the wheel, fits the budget and fits your riding style, go for it. Don't over think it and if you don't like it, try something else next time, it's not a lifetime commitment.

I run a "pinched" 180 on a 5" rim on the back and a "pinched" 120 on a 3" rim on the front (with the "unused" vertical portion of tyre). In light of this discussion I took these photos yesterday.





I use all the tyre. The other side of the bike which I couldn't photograph on the side stand, scraped the all the same stuff and the gear lever. For me, I would not want any less tyre.
I have recently re tweaked the steering with even shorter dogbones after fitting new suspension a year ago and the quick steering has returned.



Mike Ramos has previously suggested (in response to my earlier photos of similar scrapes) that this could only happen with crappy suspension and the RPM set up, even with standard bones, would prevent this. Hmmm?

Here's one for the experts to consider, coming into a corner very hard on the brakes I discovered I had no rear brake, as in the pedal just disappeared, it was my only arse clencher for the trip. I always use both brakes (except for low speed turns) and was surprised how unsettled the bike was without a bit of rear brake. Anyway, having survived the corner, I pulled over and everything was in order, nothing had moved, slipped or leaked. I pumped it by hand a few times and the pedal returned and was fine thereafter. I concluded that the slide on the previous corner had flexed something and pushed the pads back. I have never had this happen before, what do you reckon? (It was not fade)

And finally, before I resume radio silence, I could not believe when I looked in on the forum a while back that the fuel reserve function was being discussed again. The only mystery about this is how so many people who should know better don't get it.

The function of it has been explained repeatedly and a number of people have spoken to me who find it as blindingly obvious and simple as I do. Some of you guys need to put aside your bias on who is posting and concentrate on the merits of the information itself. A number of simple ways of checking it yourself were put forward but it appears no one could be bothered doing it, preferring to continue speculating and putting forward half arsed theories.

If a first year apprentice after his first week on the job couldn't figure this out and explain it to me in detail, I would suggest he re consider his career choice.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

racerrad8

Quote from: ribbert on December 02, 2015, 08:14:58 AM






I have recently re tweaked the steering with even shorter dogbones after fitting new suspension a year ago and the quick steering has returned.

Mike Ramos has previously suggested (in response to my earlier photos of similar scrapes) that this could only happen with crappy suspension and the RPM set up, even with standard bones, would prevent this. Hmmm?

Noel

Noel, I know this is not the proper thread for this, but lets start with the Hmmm...

I see in the top photo you have attached, by the looks of it, a whole lot of luggage from the pillion position all the way over & past the tail section.

How much does all of that weigh?
What is your combined weight of you and all of your gear you wear?

Now the two combined?

If it is more than or near 275# (125kg) then the rear spring is too soft. Now when I say near, here is what I see in the photo. The weight is rearward more than a pillion riding position and based on the leverage it also multiplied the rear weight percentages.

Based on the photos, it appears the front suspension is good as the dragging is occurring to the rear of the bike. So, if you would please, let me know all of those weights and we can work on resolving your issues of dragging your bike.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM