Turn signal/ Indicator

[wildfire]

I read somewhere that ABS model FJs have turn/indicator signal self cancellation when the handle bars are pointed straight. Mine does not work. I manually have to put the turn signal in the neutral position.  Any ideas what the problem might be and how to fix it?

[Capn Ron]

Well, the problem is...your bike doesn't have a self-canceling feature.  Not sure how to fix that other than doing the same thing I do...  Obsessively stab that turn signal button to make *sure* the blinker isn't still on!   

[ribbert]

I read somewhere that ABS model FJs have turn/indicator signal self cancellation when the handle bars are pointed straight. Mine does not work. I manually have to put the turn signal in the neutral position.  Any ideas what the problem might be and how to fix it?

Your description suggests you are pushing the switch left and right back to the centre (neutral) position rather than depressing it, which automatically cancels the indicator (and returns it to neutral)

Noel

[ribbert]

........ Obsessively stab that turn signal button to make *sure* the blinker isn't still on!   

A good time to re post this. I have spent a lot on my bike and some of the cheapest mods have proved to be the most valuable (and the most expensive duds).

This is one I really appreciate every time I ride.





It is a bright LED tell tale on a flexible stalk for the indicators, you can't miss it, even in the brightest light. A guy in the UK makes them as a kit for this purpose and for $20 something dollars it comes with everything, piggy back terminals, zip ties etc. The light, diodes and wiring are all enclose in a waterproof, flexible stalk.

Anyone that says they never leave their indicator on is lying. Yes, I know, we are all in the habit of turning them off, but every now and again distractions upset the sequence.  I reckon just once is enough to kill you and with this, I never forget.

Noel

[wildfire]

I read somewhere that ABS model FJs have turn/indicator signal self cancellation when the handle bars are pointed straight. Mine does not work. I manually have to put the turn signal in the neutral position.  Any ideas what the problem might be and how to fix it?

Your description suggests you are pushing the switch left and right back to the centre (neutral) position rather than depressing it, which automatically cancels the indicator (and returns it to neutral)

Noel

I do depress the switch to turn the signal off but I thought that was just a manual override.  I will look in to that upgrade from the guy in the UK. How hard was it to install?

[aviationfred]

My '89 has self cancelling signals. I believe that the '91 and later FJ's do not have self cancelling signals.

Over the years Yamaha did small minor/hidden changes to each of the generations of the FJ to save money in production cost. Really did nothing to keep the retail cost down.

A few things come to mind.

The 1100's and 1TX 1200's have aluminum rear brake pedals. The '88 and later 1200's have steel rear brake pedals.

The '84 to '90 models have self cancelling signals. '91 and later models do not.

the '84 to '90 models have aluminum swing arms, the '91 and later models have steel swing arms.


Fred

[TexasDave]

Thanks for the info Fred. I like having self cancelling turn signals. When I find a newer FJ it will be 89 or 90 because I am now spoiled.    Dave

[wildfire]

Hmm i wonder could a 89 or earlier turn signal assembly be installed on a 91 or newer.

[ribbert]

A few people have asked about the LED indicator tell tale, here is the link:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Motorcycle-indicator-warning-LED-a-must-have-/220540828057



Noel

[aviationfred]

Hmm i wonder could a 89 or earlier turn signal assembly be installed on a 91 or newer.

Yes it can be done, I have installed the opposite. I installed a '91 and later European spec turn signal switch assy on my '89. It is not a plug and play swap. The connectors are not the same. I used a molex brand 12 pin connector.

Fred

[FJ_Hooligan]

Hmm i wonder could a 89 or earlier turn signal assembly be installed on a 91 or newer.

The cancel circuit uses a reed switch up in the dash onr the early models.  Swapping the handlebar controls will not give you self cancelling signals.

[FJmonkey]

Hmm i wonder could a 89 or earlier turn signal assembly be installed on a 91 or newer.

Yes it can be done, I have installed the opposite. I installed a '91 and later European spec turn signal switch assy on my '89. It is not a plug and play swap. The connectors are not the same. I used a molex brand 12 pin connector.

Fred

I think a reed switch is needed (early speedo units) to count revolutions at the speedo to induce the cancellation. And the early system to accept the reed switch signal to turn the indicator off?

[TexasDave]

Hmm i wonder could a 89 or earlier turn signal assembly be installed on a 91 or newer.

Yes it can be done, I have installed the opposite. I installed a '91 and later European spec turn signal switch assy on my '89. It is not a plug and play swap. The connectors are not the same. I used a molex brand 12 pin connector.

Fred

I think a reed switch is needed (early speedo units) to count revolutions at the speedo to induce the cancellation. And the early system to accept the reed switch signal to turn the indicator off?

Yes the reed switch is close to a magnet in the speedometer than rotates past the switch activating it and it feeds a different relay module than later models.  Dave

[wildfire]

Ok well due to ease of installation I will go with the kit from the UK.

So Noel, from your experience is it very visible even on a sunny day?

Tom

[ribbert]

Ok well due to ease of installation I will go with the kit from the UK.

So Noel, from your experience is it very visible even on a sunny day?

Tom

Yep, in fact I have it angled away just a whisker to take the edge off the intensity. Even under the brightest conditions, you can't miss it. Being a semi rigid stalk you can mount it anywhere you want and bend it to shape or angle.
The photo I posted is actually where I view it from the riding position. I was originally going to mount it higher but find it is visible enough where it is.

It is far more eye catching than I imagined it would be. I love when something exceeds your expectations, particularly when it's cheap.

Noel