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ABS line replacement, who here has done it? Any suggestions?

Started by Pat Conlon, November 14, 2014, 12:38:00 PM

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MOTOMYSZOR

FJ is my first bike with ABS. And braking in everyday use is bad enough for me to be  a reason to remove it.
I used to operate brake lever with two fingers but in FJ that is very risky. So I have to use full hand and for me that doesn't work.....

In past I had few "close" situations and I never blocked front wheel. I had one very bad looking accident on motorbike when I had  no chance even to press brake..... So I believe that really good braking system without ABS will work better for me than ABS

Quote from: Pat Conlon on November 14, 2014, 03:11:42 PM
Thanks MOTO...BTW, what is your first name? I need to do my homework to see what you're referring to...

My name is Karol  :hi:
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rlucas

I really have nothing to contribute to this thread other than to say this is EXACTLY the kind of stuff that makes me love this place.


...besides the anticipation of Klavdy's next post, I mean.
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movenon

+1  :good2:  I don't have ABS but it is nice to learn about it on the FJ. Good thread.  :hi:
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

Pat Conlon

I agree George, and echo Rossi's sentiment, you guys are great...thanks!
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

FJscott

+2...this IS good stuff. looking forward to your observations Pat :good2:

Scott

Pat Conlon

Thanks Scotty, I'm going to experiment in 5 stages
Stock
Stock with SS lines
Stock with lines and blue spots
15mm m/c with lines and spots
14mm m/c with lines and spots

If I don't like how things feel...I'll ditch the abs and sell the abs ss line kit here on the forum.

I have my '92 I'm going to compare my results.
I already have the blue spots and 15/14mm m/c's sitting here on the bench.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Steve_in_Florida


I've stated before the night-and-day difference between my `90 blue dot /SS lines and my stock `92 ABS. It's weird to change between them. The dots stop on a dime, it seems. I likem!

Next is dots on the `92. Lots of hoses in the ABS makes for an $$$ upgrade. I'll report on the caliper upgrade when I make it happen.

Have a `92 nonABS on the back burner with blue dots & caliper.

Many projects...

Scott, you're welcome to try my FJ's to see what I mean.

Steve
`90 FJ-1200
`92 FJ-1200

IBA # 54823

FJscott

Quote from: Steve_in_Florida on November 15, 2014, 05:21:28 PM

I've stated before the night-and-day difference between my `90 blue dot /SS lines and my stock `92 ABS. It's weird to change between them. The dots stop on a dime, it seems. I likem!

Next is dots on the `92. Lots of hoses in the ABS makes for an $$$ upgrade. I'll report on the caliper upgrade when I make it happen.

Have a `92 nonABS on the back burner with blue dots & caliper.

Many projects...

Scott, you're welcome to try my FJ's to see what I mean.

Thanks Steve, Ill have to come up your way when I get back , we can go for a ride North of you. Ill be back first week in Jan when it will finaly be "leather weather" in Florida :dance2:
Scott

Steve

FJ_Hooligan

The ABS won't care about the master cylinder piston size since it doesn't use the master cylinder.  

It "could" care about the caliper piston size.  Not sure exactly how the ABS pump works, but if it cycles a fixed amount of fluid in the line then that might not work correctly with caliper pistons that are very different sized than stock.  On the plus side, the blue dot pistons are very close to stock size so, bottomline, it also shouldn't matter.

I'll be interested in your findings.  I'm in the process of removing my never-working ABS.

Finally, check out VENHILL lines.
DavidR.

Pat Conlon

Thanks Hooli...alas no love from Venhill on the '93 FJ's....they only list the Vmax for that year...

Yep, I suspected the m/c may not matter....I do have a FJR abs 15mm m/c I'm going to try....

If, from what I've read, the abs intercedes too early....I don't think I can correct that.....we'll see.

Cheers
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3