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Started by wildfire, November 12, 2014, 12:02:01 PM

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charleygofast

Quote from: wildfire on November 12, 2014, 12:02:01 PM
So other than having to remove the exhaust every time to gain access to the oil drain plug are there any tips or techniques.

Tom
The "Fumoto oil drain", there is a thread somewhere in here if you dig deep or someone may re-post the info. It looks like the best solution allowing oil changes without removing your header...It drains to the left.
1984 Yamaha FJ 1100
1981 Yamaha XS 650
1985 Suzuki SP 600F
1979 Yamaha XS 1100                                                                      2015 Kawasaki KLR 650

ribbert

Quote from: charleygofast on November 12, 2014, 07:41:25 PM
Quote from: wildfire on November 12, 2014, 12:02:01 PM
So other than having to remove the exhaust every time to gain access to the oil drain plug are there any tips or techniques.

Tom
The "Fumoto oil drain", there is a thread somewhere in here if you dig deep or someone may re-post the info. It looks like the best solution allowing oil changes without removing your header...It drains to the left.

I was going to mention that too, just type it into eBay and it will come up.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

Zwartie

Quote from: wildfire on November 12, 2014, 01:06:35 PM
Quote from: 1tinindian on November 12, 2014, 12:52:11 PM
Quote from: wildfire on November 12, 2014, 12:37:42 PM
So just to clarify that is the left side when sitting on the bike. Is a new gasket required?

FYI, there is only one left, and only one right.
It doesn't matter if you are sitting on it, looking at it upside down, or cross-eyed.

FYI its all relevant on the viewers visual aspect or understand. Sitting on the bike the left will be viewed by many as the right when the same viewer stands in front of the bike so yes it does matter. Unless you of course were trying to say that the business standard of left/right is when viewing a motorcycle or any vehicle is when sitting in the riding/driving seat.

Here's an easy way to remember it: The side of the bike that the left signal is on is the left side of the bike. The side of the bike that the right signal is on is the right side of the bike. The end of the bike that the headlight is on is the front end and the end of the bike that the tail light is on is the rear end of the bike. If you need someone to explain which is the top and which is the bottom, chances are you've crashed the bike.

Zwartie
Ben Zwart
London, ON
1992 FJ1200
1977 KZ200

racerrad8

Quote from: charleygofast on November 12, 2014, 07:41:25 PM
The "Fumoto oil drain", there is a thread somewhere in here if you dig deep or someone may re-post the info. It looks like the best solution allowing oil changes without removing your header...It drains to the left.

This topic came up on an international XJR1300 forums earlier this year. Here is my opinion of those types of drains.

Randy - RPM

Quote from: racerrad8There is one problem with these types of valve for use in the FJ/XJR series oil pan.

The factory oil plug has a raised boss of approximately 10mm inside the oil pan. They have also added a gap in that boss to ensure all of the oil drains from the sump.

If you look at the picture of the oil plug in the sump, which is approximately 12mm in length, you can see it stands above the raise boss in the pan.

What this means is that you will never completely get all of the old oil out of the sump with this type of product, leaving a 10-12mm depth volume across the base of the oil pan. So, when you change the oil you will always have old oil being mixed with new.




If you want a reference to know how bad this can be; take a glass of expired, rotten milk, pour out 95% of it, pour in fresh milk on top of the old milk and see how it tastes...

You should stick with the drain plug.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

FJmonkey

I went from the stock exhaust to the RPM exhaust so I bypassed all the drama of removing exhaust bits just to changing my oil. Now my FJ never sounded so good and the RPM exhaust with the carbon fiber can looks awesome. I have also seen first hand that the oil cooler line will piss out all the oil when removed. Get a spare (or more) o-ring(s) from Randy and change it when you think you need to. Kookaloo...
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

charleygofast

I missed the info on the Fumoto drain installed on an FJ issues...Thanks Randy! I wont be Installing one on my bike. Sorry Wildfire...pulling the cooler line or removing the header are our only options with your V/H, my Yoshimura and so many other aftermarket systems....I am humbled and I stand corrected!        Charley.
1984 Yamaha FJ 1100
1981 Yamaha XS 650
1985 Suzuki SP 600F
1979 Yamaha XS 1100                                                                      2015 Kawasaki KLR 650

Firehawk068

That is excellent info Randy, and something I didn't even think to consider........................

I wonder if the "Fumoto" style drain plug could be slotted, and indexed to line up with the gap in the thread boss for proper draining............

I still remove my Kerker exhaust when I change oil, but was trying to come up with an idea for draining without exhaust removal...........

I can't afford one of your exhausts right now, but believe me, I would love to  :good:
Alan H.
Denver, CO
'90 FJ1200

aviationfred

I know exactly what Leon is referring too. George (Movenon) and Mike (Skymasters) can attest to this also. In aviation when references are made too something that is to the left or the right. It is ALWAYS as if you are in the aircraft facing forward.

I believe most professional auto/motorcycle mechanics use the same system.

Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor