FJowners.com Has Reached a New Low

[Derek Young]

Well as it turned out this seemingly arrogant, rude, blunt, foul individual really didn't have horns coming out of his head,  In fact he is a down right nice, polite, quiet, considerate, civil, mild mannered, straight shooter, and caring individual.  Not only did I enjoy his company he or his family are welcome at my place anytime.  

George

OK George, you can't put out a teaser like that and leave us hanging.
So......?

Noel

I know it's not me Noel. From reading my posts, George thought I was a nice, polite Canadian... When he met me he discovered I'm actually a TOTAL DICK...!

Derek

[novaraptor]

Okay, let's all gang up on Steve!!! He hate me!

[movenon]

Well as it turned out this seemingly arrogant, rude, blunt, foul individual really didn't have horns coming out of his head,  In fact he is a down right nice, polite, quiet, considerate, civil, mild mannered, straight shooter, and caring individual.  Not only did I enjoy his company he or his family are welcome at my place anytime.  

George

OK George, you can't put out a teaser like that and leave us hanging.
So......?

Noel

I know it's not me Noel. From reading my posts, George thought I was a nice, polite Canadian... When he met me he discovered I'm actually a TOTAL DICK...!

Derek

The name is unimportant.  It was the on line vs real world experience that I wanted to relay.  My lesson learned.  On line persona's can be deceiving.

Don't let Derek fool you.  Anyone that has ever met Derek or Donna knows they are wonderful people and you as I am would be proud to call them friends. 

Go to a rally !

George

[Steve_in_Florida]

Okay, let's all gang up on Steve!!! He hate me!

You play Backgammon?

I'll kick your ass!

Steve

[Firehawk068]

Okay, let's all gang up on Steve!!! He hate me!

Yeah, but he brought a Stripper to the WCR this year...........................No Joke!

[TexasDave]

Okay, let's all gang up on Steve!!! He hate me!

Yeah, but he brought a Stripper to the WCR this year...........................No Joke!

He brought one to the Central Rally too. I wonder if it was the same one?

[1tinindian]

The name is unimportant.  It was the on line vs real world experience that I wanted to relay.  My lesson learned.  On line persona's can be deceiving.

Don't let Derek fool you.  Anyone that has ever met Derek or Donna knows they are wonderful people and you as I am would be proud to call them friends. 

Go to a rally !

George

I won't put words (or names) in your mouth George, but I had thoughts that Klavdy was maybe, the worlds biggest horses ass..............UNTIL, I actually got to meet him in person at the 2012 WCR. What a pleasant person to be around, I couldn't get enough of him, and I cherish the photo we took together, a great keep sake.

So I would agree that everybody needs to get their ass to a Rally, any rally, and get to know us. I haven't met a single one of us that I didn't like, and even more than that, I consider many very good, close personal friends of mine. Any judgments against anyone based solely on what is said/ read on a forum, is very bad way to get to know us.

Leon

[novaraptor]

Okay, I'm liking Steve more and more..

[JoBrCo]

Consider it an anomaly, definitely not the norm. This site and its members are a source of valuable information and support for all things FJ. From time to time a new member comes along that tends to rub the other members the wrong way. In this case I believe it had to do with the asking for recommendations, getting them from experienced, knowledgeable members only to challenge those recommendations without actually trying them out first. I could sense the frustration. Should this member ask for future advice they will be lucky to get any for fear of immediate retribution. What upset me the most about the thread was the misuse of Rush lyrics in a feeble attempt to appear intelligent. I am a huge Rush fan (just ask my wife and she will nod and roll her eyes simultaneously) so I'm offended on two levels - as an FJ owner and a Rush fan. Kind of reminds me of the time when Jerry Seinfeld was offended as a comedian that Tim Whatley converted to Judaism just for the jokes (also a big Seinfeld fan). Anyway, it is what it is. This too will pass... (not a Rush quote).

That's all I have to say about that (Forrest Gump)

Zwartie 

Of course as to this we disagree 100%.  A thread to bash someone, really?? Careful or one might sense that it exemplifies that which the OP sought to dispel.

I've been listening to Rush since I've first seen them, in 1974, their first tour, as backup, (opening act) for "Manfred Mann's Earth Band," and the Headliner, "Uriah Heep."  I own all their albums, been to more of their shows than any other band, even my favorite band "Yes."  I've always appreciated them mainly because of Peart's lyrics, which is why he's been known as "The Professor," due to the false rumor that he has a PhD in the Literary Sciences.  His lyrics that I've quoted, I understand only too well, which is why I quote them.  Which is not to say that my use of them, shall not go over ones' head, as that's entirely possible.

A few more things to keep in mind:

If one has talked to few on a forum, it's understood, ("a no brainier;" "goes without saying"), that anything he says he directs to only those to which he's already spoken, I mean who else is there, but the wall.  Therefore anyone new that chimes in, saying anything demeaning or derogatory, when they "believe" they see something naughty, only does so in the interest of groupism; cronyism; to be a bully; part of a mob, because they believe that mobs rule; or they're always searching, looking for anything so as to fight, in either case, they are the ones that are wrong.  Especially when it's their very first attempt at addressing someone, previously only ever lurking, forming an opinion, most often born of preconceived notions that do not "necessarily" have any merit in that particular circumstance.

Additionally If someone makes a blanket (general) statement, it's understood, ("a no brainier;" "goes without saying"), that they are speaking only to those that it "applies" to, who it applies to, knowing who they are, such that those that take offense, then reeling, responding with venomous words, can only be those to which it applies, as the ones that it doesn't, take no offense, and therefore need not reply, as they know they were not being spoken to.  Such can be understood not only by the one making the general statement, but by any wise onlookers, of open mind.

I guard against being a participant of groupism, cronyism, or a mob, because there is no "real" victory in such an endeavor, rather only brute force, devoid of any real wisdom or intellect, not becoming of the modern insightful man of the day, instead a throwback to that of a far more basic man, maybe a neanderthal, though I wouldn't want to insult one.

Am I talking "about" anyone here, or am I explaining my point of view for everyone to judge for themselves?  Is it for the sake of rhetoric? Is it what I have come to finally learn, independent of any particular forum or person? Shall it benefit anyone here, in any way whatsoever?  I cannot answer any of those questions for "anyone" other than myself.  But I believe it's important to ask all those questions of oneself before they respond to another, as if they "know" for "certain" what the answer is.

It's all about the benefit of doubt, which is something I myself am seriously working on, because I'm really sharp, and can often see venom in ones words, whether they realize it or not, sometimes words can be taken in several ways.  And I'm often guilty of taking the worst; for instance:  Early on, I jumped to a conclusion with Franks words, and responded badly, only seeing the worst meaning possible, he corrected me, with much politeness, then I reciprocated and apologized for holding him accountable for my error in judgement, funny then that he quits, so be it, I am only me, and he is only he.

If you really need to bash someone, make it me, I'm used to it, since I was 4, such is the story of my life.  But don't think you're "right" in doing so, as one day you might be drowning, and it's me that jumps in an saves your life, that's the way I am; I know someone that's alive today, because of it.


FJ Forever!   

JoBrCo

[Steve_in_Florida]

Okay, let's all gang up on Steve!!! He hate me!

Yeah, but he brought a Stripper to the WCR this year...........................No Joke!

He brought one to the Central Rally too. I wonder if it was the same one?

I feel the need to qualify this...

Coming from an area of Florida that's kinda' sleazy; Strip clubs and the like.

Inquire at the KOA check-in desk about local strip clubs in the Willets, CA area.

Word of this event is leaked upon our arrival in camp.

Strippers in the area? It seems that Pat Conlon is the one to see. _HE_ knows the place! Sure enough, he takes me to one local chain, but none were suitable for our requirements. We were directed to another hole-in-wall establishment down the street and around the corner.

Once Pat conveyed our specific needs, our nice lady attendant hooked us up, with a grin on her face!

As those that met her "can" attest, that's some of the best money I've ever spent on a stripper.

She passed through the hands of some of the other members throughout the week too, as I recall??

Hmmm???

Steve

[Pat Conlon]

....wait...what?

[1tinindian]

Okay, let's all gang up on Steve!!! He hate me!

Yeah, but he brought a Stripper to the WCR this year...........................No Joke!

He brought one to the Central Rally too. I wonder if it was the same one?

I feel the need to qualify this...

Coming from an area of Florida that's kinda' sleazy; Strip clubs and the like.

Inquire at the KOA check-in desk about local strip clubs in the Willets, CA area.

Word of this event is leaked upon our arrival in camp.

Strippers in the area? It seems that Pat Conlon is the one to see. _HE_ knows the place! Sure enough, he takes me to one local chain, but none were suitable for our requirements. We were directed to another hole-in-wall establishment down the street and around the corner.

Once Pat conveyed our specific needs, our nice lady attendant hooked us up, with a grin on her face!

As those that met her "can" attest, that's some of the best money I've ever spent on a stripper.

She passed through the hands of some of the other members throughout the week too, as I recall??

Hmmm???

Steve

This brings a whole new reason to go to a rally.
Steve, I'm hanging with you next rally!

Leon

[Capn Ron]

....wait...what?

Two words:  Plausible deniability   

[Pat Conlon]

Whew

[aviationfred]

Okay, let's all gang up on Steve!!! He hate me!

Yeah, but he brought a Stripper to the WCR this year...........................No Joke!

He brought one to the Central Rally too. I wonder if it was the same one?

I brought one of these to the Central Rally just for Steve. Look at the curves on this one.
















Fred