Return of the FJ! FJ-09

[motohorseman]

At first I thought this was an ADV style bike and as such, I don't mind the look at all.  I was also pretty excited about the 3-cylinder 100+ HP torquey engine and an approximate weight coming in at 150 pounds lighter than my FJ1200!  This was starting to look like my next bike!  You see, I'm drawn to dirt roads for some reason...I can't explain it, but others here will back me up on this.  



Then I saw the limited travel forks, cast wheels and the really poor exhaust pipes and muffler position and this is a street tourer?  Now I'm with everyone here...It's damned ugly for a street sport-tourer.

Now if they would bring the Tenere XT660Z to the states, I might get interested.



Or in an ideal world, build me a Tenere with the FZ(FJ)-09 847cc, three cylinder, 107HP engine for about $9,500 and 450 lbs and we're in business!  

Something along these lines?

[Burns]

You know it's funny Ron, one bike that Yam bought out I really liked the look of was the TDM850,  but these current futuristic designs just look messy. You sure you wouldn't like the XTZ1200 Super Tenere instead?

Funny you should mention that bike!  I've been looking at the 1200CC Super Tenere for quite a while.  I chatted with a guy riding one on the Blue Ridge Parkway back in 2012 and that was in my mind for the rest of my trip.  When I found myself on dirt roads...or avoiding dirt roads...I thought about a second bike more in the ADV style/function.  The  XTZ1200 is a big beast...nearing the weight of the FJ1200.  I really don't think I want that much bike off the road.

In reading more about this (did a search for "Yamaha Tenere rumors"), there's a lot of speculation of Yamaha coming out with a 2015 replacement for the existing XT660Z Tenere single (Well underpowered for its weight).  Most of the talk is aimed at a Tenere with the 847cc triple (108 HP) from the FZ-09...or with the ~700cc parallel twin (74 HP) from the FZ-07.  Either of those bikes should come in at around 450 pounds and be simple...both of which appeal to me.  Whether they show up state side is a different issue.

The potential 2015 Honda Africa Twin crf1000 is also very interesting!

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seems like KTM's would be on your list.  I'm curious as to their conspicuous absence.

[Capn Ron]

Something along these lines?

Steve,

EXACTLY!  You're killin' me!  Where did you find this???

[FJ_Hooligan]

Be sure you test ride the Super Tenere before you get too committed.

I have a friend with one and I was very disappointed when he let me ride it.  Had lots of gadgets but the power delivery had lots of vibration and I was not impressed with the amount of power it had.  I was expecting way more from a 1200cc twin.

It fell completely off of my "maybe" list which, by the way, is now topped by the Super Duke R.

[Capn Ron]

You know it's funny Ron, one bike that Yam bought out I really liked the look of was the TDM850,  but these current futuristic designs just look messy. You sure you wouldn't like the XTZ1200 Super Tenere instead?

Funny you should mention that bike!  I've been looking at the 1200CC Super Tenere for quite a while.  I chatted with a guy riding one on the Blue Ridge Parkway back in 2012 and that was in my mind for the rest of my trip.  When I found myself on dirt roads...or avoiding dirt roads...I thought about a second bike more in the ADV style/function.  The  XTZ1200 is a big beast...nearing the weight of the FJ1200.  I really don't think I want that much bike off the road.

In reading more about this (did a search for "Yamaha Tenere rumors"), there's a lot of speculation of Yamaha coming out with a 2015 replacement for the existing XT660Z Tenere single (Well underpowered for its weight).  Most of the talk is aimed at a Tenere with the 847cc triple (108 HP) from the FZ-09...or with the ~700cc parallel twin (74 HP) from the FZ-07.  Either of those bikes should come in at around 450 pounds and be simple...both of which appeal to me.  Whether they show up state side is a different issue.

The potential 2015 Honda Africa Twin crf1000 is also very interesting!

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seems like KTM's would be on your list.  I'm curious as to their conspicuous absence.

Yeah, I think I'm off the big Super Tenere for weight alone...  The KTM 1190 Adventure R has the power to weight problem SOLVED, but it will take $18,500 to buy a new one so, sadly... that's out.  Price, simplicity, reliability, familiarity...all bring me back to an XT850Z Tenere if it's around 450 pounds and $10,000 USD.  Ohhh...and IF it's actually made...AND if it's sold in the US.  UG.

[The General]

You know it's funny Ron, one bike that Yam bought out I really liked the look of was the TDM850,  but these current futuristic designs just look messy. You sure you wouldn't like the XTZ1200 Super Tenere instead?

Funny you should mention that bike!  I've been looking at the 1200CC Super Tenere for quite a while.  I chatted with a guy riding one on the Blue Ridge Parkway back in 2012 and that was in my mind for the rest of my trip.  When I found myself on dirt roads...or avoiding dirt roads...I thought about a second bike more in the ADV style/function.  The  XTZ1200 is a big beast...nearing the weight of the FJ1200.  I really don't think I want that much bike off the road.

In reading more about this (did a search for "Yamaha Tenere rumors"), there's a lot of speculation of Yamaha coming out with a 2015 replacement for the existing XT660Z Tenere single (Well underpowered for its weight).  Most of the talk is aimed at a Tenere with the 847cc triple (108 HP) from the FZ-09...or with the ~700cc parallel twin (74 HP) from the FZ-07.  Either of those bikes should come in at around 450 pounds and be simple...both of which appeal to me.  Whether they show up state side is a different issue.

The potential 2015 Honda Africa Twin crf1000 is also very interesting!

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seems like KTM's would be on your list.  I'm curious as to their conspicuous absence.

Yeah, I think I'm off the big Super Tenere for weight alone...  The KTM 1190 Adventure R has the power to weight problem SOLVED, but it will take $18,500 to buy a new one so, sadly... that's out.  Price, simplicity, reliability, familiarity...all bring me back to an XT850Z Tenere if it's around 450 pounds and $10,000 USD.  Ohhh...and IF it's actually made...AND if it's sold in the US.  UG.

I would wait until it`s got a 21 inch front wheel at least.

[JPaganel]

  "F" is for 4 ain't it?

Nope. J is for four.

Originally, the letters were as follows:

F is for "sportbike".
J is for "inline four four-stroke"
X is for "standard"
S is for "parallel twin four-stroke"

And this is why we have FJ, XJ and XS


Why they decided to change this and called a triple a J, I have no idea.

[Country Joe]

Remember the XS 750 and XS 850? Triples....I don't think Yamaha was as rigid with model designations as we think. The Radian was a YX 600...

Joe

[The General]

  "F" is for 4 ain't it?

Nope. J is for four.

Originally, the letters were as follows:

F is for "sportbike".
J is for "inline four four-stroke"
X is for "standard"
S is for "parallel twin four-stroke"

And this is why we have FJ, XJ and XS


Why they decided to change this and called a triple a J, I have no idea.

...and I thought my 78 4cyl 1100cc Yamaha was an XS!

[Firehawk068]

Yep, XS1100 was an inline 4
My Vision 550 was XZ, but that was a V-twin
My Seca II 600 was an XJ

Only Yamaha knows what the letters mean.............

[JPaganel]

...and I thought my 78 4cyl 1100cc Yamaha was an XS!

Same bike in 1981 was an XJ1100.

So, maybe they don't stick to convention all that well...

[Burns]

A triple with FJ badges just seems WRONG to me. Like a 4 cyl  Mustang .
Is nothing sacred?

[Firehawk068]

Yeah, I think I'm off the big Super Tenere for weight alone...  The KTM 1190 Adventure R has the power to weight problem SOLVED, but it will take $18,500 to buy a new one so, sadly... that's out.  Price, simplicity, reliability, familiarity...all bring me back to an XT850Z Tenere if it's around 450 pounds and $10,000 USD.  Ohhh...and IF it's actually made...AND if it's sold in the US.  UG.

I like the way you think!

I've already convinced myself that my next 2-wheel purchase will be an adventure bike.......................I have already ridden the Multistrada, and the Hyperstrada...........(I would never own either one)
The multistrada felt great, and I found the power adequate, however I could never justify the $19,000 price tag.
The Hyperstrada was way to cramped for someone my size, and It felt a tad underpowered, but highly flickable/lightweight.................Again, on the north end of what I would consider a proper price for such a bike.............
If I could just find something a bit larger than the hyperstrada, with adequate power, and priced around $10,000