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Started by jr1349, September 07, 2014, 06:27:46 AM

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JMR

From rev limits to cultural food. I general I'd say a NA FJ doesn't do anything after 9,000RPM. Same as a SOHC CB750 and many other bikes. I've had my FJ on the dyno 4 separate occasions in different configurations with over 60 runs. The CB has about 200 runs. :biggrin:

JoBrCo

It would seem that the OP really didn't care what anyone had to say, and would rather dog those that would take their valuable time to try and help him with the answer, Troll anyone? Of course it's a worthwhile topic for others, I'm sure.  I'm just trying to get mine to run well.



1985 FJ1100NC



"To 'truly' see the man in the mirror, the only way for the image to be clear, as the man then 'truly' grows" --JoBrCo--

'I only know that I know nothing' --Socrates--

movenon

Getting back to the rev limit question here is a resent on going thread with a thought about the rev limiter. Go down to the 3rd post.

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=12563.0
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

JMR

 I don't see what the difference is? By 9,000 or 9,500 depending on cam timing the witch has left on a broomstick. If you pressurize things it can be different but not by much (in regard to redline). Busa's are the same with stroke/bore close to a bored FJ.
I'd like to see more dyno sheets on this board.....maybe they ain't got no dynos in Australia. Those fellas have all the answers.  :rofl2:

JMR

 Guys....I really think some genuine discourse on rev limits should be heard.

Earl Svorks

 I opened up a tachometer that was on a '90 1200. I was surprised to find what appeared to be a contact point that moved with the tach needle and would close with another contact when the tach was in the red. Looking at the wiring diagram suggests that this is
indeed the rev limiter.

X-Ray

Quote from: JoBrCo on September 15, 2014, 05:29:02 PM

Oh and did I mention..., Vegemite tastes like crap! ;)   :nyam2:   :shok:  :yahoo:  :dance2:


JoBrCo

You lookin to start another argument? Vegemite forever!! Yummo,   :rofl:
I only just read this thread today and had a strong feeling it was going to take a turn for the worse. Our mate from the other side of Australia obviously didn't like friendly advice which seemed to somehow insult his expertise. Anyway, his loss. The things he really could have learned if he stuck around.............
'94 FJ1200 Wet Pale Brown
'93 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver
'84 FJ1100 Red/White

'91 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver ( Now Sold)
'92 FJ1200 Project/Resto Dark Violet/Silver (Now Sold)






For photos of my rear wheel swap, heres the link  https://www.flickr.com/gp/150032671@N02/62k3KZ

oldktmdude

Quote from: X-Ray on September 17, 2014, 02:04:57 AM
I only just read this thread today and had a strong feeling it was going to take a turn for the worse. Our mate from the other side of Australia obviously didn't like friendly advice which seemed to somehow insult his expertise. Anyway, his loss. The things he really could have learned if he stuck around.............
It kind of makes you wonder why he joined the FJ forum and not the XJR forums? Maybe he wore out his welcome on the XJR sites before he blessed us with his arsehole attitudes. I for one won't miss him!  Pete.    :bye2:
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

charleygofast

Quote from: Earl Svorks on September 16, 2014, 09:19:24 PM
I opened up a tachometer that was on a '90 1200. I was surprised to find what appeared to be a contact point that moved with the tach needle and would close with another contact when the tach was in the red. Looking at the wiring diagram suggests that this is
indeed the rev limiter.
I wonder if earlier models like my 84 have this? Mine revs freely to 10,000 but  my fear of damage stops me from spinnin her any faster...and theres really no point in doing so 8000 to 10,000 is the Kookaloo zone and I can live with that. And to our Aussie friends, I am going to try Vegemite, they sell it at our local Wal-mart. Is it indeed a condiment? If so what do you condim it on ?
1984 Yamaha FJ 1100
1981 Yamaha XS 650
1985 Suzuki SP 600F
1979 Yamaha XS 1100                                                                      2015 Kawasaki KLR 650

X-Ray

Vegemite is actually a yeast extract, and is very tasty. On hot buttered toast in the morning, on a sandwich with sliced tomato, on buttered crisp bread with a cup of coffee, love it. CanDman had a bit of it when he stayed with us earlier this year, and even though he put on a brave face, I know he won't be having it again.  :praising:

Having said that, even my family only very thinly scrape it onto bread etc, as they say its too strong. Me, I lather it on,  :good2:

https://www.vegemite.com.au/en-AU/FAQ.aspx

Errrr, anyway, something about revs was mentioned......  In fact, I have no idea what the FJ revs to as I have never wound it up that far, lol.
'94 FJ1200 Wet Pale Brown
'93 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver
'84 FJ1100 Red/White

'91 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver ( Now Sold)
'92 FJ1200 Project/Resto Dark Violet/Silver (Now Sold)






For photos of my rear wheel swap, heres the link  https://www.flickr.com/gp/150032671@N02/62k3KZ

Harvy

Quote from: charleygofast on September 17, 2014, 06:26:19 AM
And to our Aussie friends, I am going to try Vegemite, they sell it at our local Wal-mart. Is it indeed a condiment? If so what do you condim it on ?

Condim it on toast with butter - plenty of butter (not that margarine rubbish). Don't start off too thick to begin with - its an acquired taste........ salty and tangy at the same time.
Good luck
Harvy
FJZ1 1200 - It'll do me just fine.
Timing has much to do with the success of a rain dance.

Firehawk068

Quote from: movenon on September 16, 2014, 06:28:46 PM
Getting back to the rev limit question here is a resent on going thread with a thought about the rev limiter. Go down to the 3rd post.

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=12563.0
George

I've read through this thread, and two things stuck out at me......................................First off, is anyone else confused by the new member's username?
I kept seeing "FJWizard" and thinking it was Frank "Flynt"..(sorry Frank) :flag_of_truce:........Until I noticed he was a newbie, and only had a post count of 5.............

Anyway, his post says that the later digital TCI ignitions (which my '90 should have)had a 9,300rpm rev limiter?
I would be quick to challenge this info, mainly because I have had my FJ tach well into the red, way past 9,300 on a few occasions........
Unless my tachometer is off by a mile, I can't see this being true?

I have a fancy DVOM that has rpm functions on it, with an inductive pickup......................The next chance I get, I'll hook it up and see if the FJ tach has some error in it..................I'll report back my findings.........
Alan H.
Denver, CO
'90 FJ1200

ribbert

Quote from: Firehawk068 on September 17, 2014, 08:25:35 AM
Quote from: movenon on September 16, 2014, 06:28:46 PM
Getting back to the rev limit question here is a resent on going thread with a thought about the rev limiter. Go down to the 3rd post.

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=12563.0
George

Anyway, his post says that the later digital TCI ignitions (which my '90 should have)had a 9,300rpm rev limiter?
I would be quick to challenge this info, mainly because I have had my FJ tach well into the red, way past 9,300 on a few occasions........
Unless my tachometer is off by a mile, I can't see this being true?

I have a fancy DVOM that has rpm functions on it, with an inductive pickup......................The next chance I get, I'll hook it up and see if the FJ tach has some error in it..................I'll report back my findings.........

If it takes it cue from the tacho, as was suggested earlier, it won't matter whether it's accurate or not.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

ribbert

Quote from: Harvy on September 17, 2014, 07:14:52 AM
Quote from: charleygofast on September 17, 2014, 06:26:19 AM
And to our Aussie friends, I am going to try Vegemite, they sell it at our local Wal-mart. Is it indeed a condiment? If so what do you condim it on ?

Condim it on toast with butter - plenty of butter (not that margarine rubbish). Don't start off too thick to begin with - its an acquired taste........ salty and tangy at the same time.
Good luck
Harvy

Spot on Harvy, I would recommend about teaspoon's worth on a piece of toast as a starting point. Pretty good on toast under eggs too.

JoBrCo, eating it straight from the jar would even make a Vegemite lover wince.

Quote from: Klavdy on September 15, 2014, 09:46:26 PM
Most Aussies will wonder at how you Seppos know things taste like shit.


I would have thought a Bacon Shake (Bacon milkshake with real bacon bits sprinkled on top) would give them a pretty good idea.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

movenon

Quote from: ribbert on September 17, 2014, 08:48:25 AM
Quote from: Firehawk068 on September 17, 2014, 08:25:35 AM
Quote from: movenon on September 16, 2014, 06:28:46 PM
Getting back to the rev limit question here is a resent on going thread with a thought about the rev limiter. Go down to the 3rd post.

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=12563.0
George

Anyway, his post says that the later digital TCI ignitions (which my '90 should have)had a 9,300rpm rev limiter?
I would be quick to challenge this info, mainly because I have had my FJ tach well into the red, way past 9,300 on a few occasions........
Unless my tachometer is off by a mile, I can't see this being true?

I have a fancy DVOM that has rpm functions on it, with an inductive pickup......................The next chance I get, I'll hook it up and see if the FJ tach has some error in it..................I'll report back my findings.........

If it takes it cue from the tacho it won't matter whether it's accurate or not.

Noel

Grounding the signal manually in the tach seems logical to me.  At least one way of doing it.  Perhaps taking a old tach and putting an ohm meter between the signal input and ground them manually turn the needle to see if it go's to ground at some point?  I think that I have a extra tach in my parts and bits.  It is out of the newer style cluster (87 ? and newer). Condition unknown.  I was thinking about taking a look at it anyhow and see if "CapnRon" needed it.

The rev limiter is a nice thing to know but as noted above I also will not be testing it out with my old engine.  :good2:
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200