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Can someone please steer me towards a better clutch M/C?

Started by Tuneforkfreak, August 25, 2014, 07:42:37 PM

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Tuneforkfreak

Just spent the last 3 hours in Yamahell  trying to bleed the clutch system only to have it start leaking out the plunger again. After spending $30.00 on a M/C rebuild kit only to find out the housing is probably worn out it's discouraging to say the least. At this point I need to replace it but is there something  of a bit newer design that I can use? I don't really care for this stock design so much and would prefer something a bit more trust worthy. Would appreciate any guidance.  Man I wanted to ride tonight :dash1:
Yamahas from my past,
IT465, IT200, YZ80. 350Warrior, Kodiak400, Kodiak450,
Various others include
XR600, KX500, KDX200, ATC250R, ATC350X, ATC 200S
Currently ride
FJ 1200 , DRZ400, Yamaha Viking, Suzuki Samurai dirt mobile

the fan

It worked for 24 years....

Pretty much any 5/8 master (16mm) should work.

A shindy/ Nissan master would work very well if you like the pee cup look....
http://www.shindypro.com/clutch_mckits.html

I believe RPM carries these.

I have used the nissin aftermarket masters on a few projects and have been very happy with the quality and performance

Arnie

Just about any hydraulic M/C will work. Check the size of the bore (usually cast into the body) to make sure its the same as the one you're replacing.  Only other caution is that the "safety" switch should work the same and have the same connector.
I'm using a Kawasaki clutch unit and had to modify the switch, but there are many others that are 'plug and play'. 

aviationfred

I have been using a set of Honda VFR800 master cylinders for well over a year now. They work great, they are readily available on eBay and I like the fluid window facing the rider. Here is the link for the mod write up.

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=9635.0

Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

oldktmdude

Quote from: aviationfred on August 25, 2014, 09:54:04 PM
I have been using a set of Honda VFR800 master cylinders for well over a year now. They work great, they are readily available on eBay and I like the fluid window facing the rider. Here is the link for the mod write up.

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=9635.0

Fred
Plus 1.  :good2:   Pete.
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

charleygofast

Quote from: aviationfred on August 25, 2014, 09:54:04 PM
I have been using a set of Honda VFR800 master cylinders for well over a year now. They work great, they are readily available on eBay and I like the fluid window facing the rider. Here is the link for the mod write up.

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=9635.0

Fred
I too am using the VFR style M/C. Mine are from Dawn Knights and work really well. They offer several styles but I recommend if you order from them you get the unpainted ones, mine had paint in the reservoir and required cleaning. Also you might have to wait a couple of weeks for delivery.                                 Charley.
1984 Yamaha FJ 1100
1981 Yamaha XS 650
1985 Suzuki SP 600F
1979 Yamaha XS 1100                                                                      2015 Kawasaki KLR 650

Tuneforkfreak

Thanks for the guidance everyone.  I've never been up against what would seem to be such a simple bleed job. For me the vacuum pump was a must and i still had a problem removing the air.  I found a different MC on line last night for a kaw, looks to be of the same layout but I'll have to rework the switch which should be straight forward.  BTW I'm not hating on the F J MC  by all means, I just don't care for how the lever interacts with the plunger not allowing adjustment of free play.  Hopefully this works out, BTW I got the 18 T counter shaft sprocket from Randy  excited to get that on there too. I have a 38 rear ordered.
Yamahas from my past,
IT465, IT200, YZ80. 350Warrior, Kodiak400, Kodiak450,
Various others include
XR600, KX500, KDX200, ATC250R, ATC350X, ATC 200S
Currently ride
FJ 1200 , DRZ400, Yamaha Viking, Suzuki Samurai dirt mobile

Tapartacus

I use a 2003 FJR clutch master, works flawless. Adjustable lever, but you must modify the switch.

Andrew
92  FJ1200
89  FJ1200

nurse

+ 1 on the FJR M/C.

Looks stock and works perfectly.  Switch wiring mod is straightforward.

I also use a brake M/C from a fazer.  Looks the same but has the better bore size (please note I can't remember the exact measurment as it's late and I'm tired, but I want to say 16mm??
A life has been well lived, if you have planted trees under who's shade you do not expect to sit.

I'm told I'm cynical, pessimistic and generally miserable. I say that I'm realistic! The fact that reality sucks is not my fault!

airheadPete

Or mine with the FZ-1 master, threw on the blue-spots at the same time. If you're gonna make a project outta it... (It's pretty cheap too.)
:hi:
'92 FJ1200.    '84 R100CS
'78 GS750E.   '81 R100RS
'76 R90/6       '89 R100GS
'65 R60/2