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Buyer Beware - Genuine RPM Oil Filter Adapter

Started by racerrad8, August 17, 2014, 04:12:34 PM

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racerrad8

I was contacted several months ago by a customer in the UK that told me he could make the RPM oil filter adapter to the same standard for a cheaper price.

Well, he set off to manufacturing them and then after making them, gave me a price. Well, needless to say trying to buy in quantity from overseas and then to pay shipping is not a feasible proposition.

The second issue that I have with the other adapter is I am not sure if there are enough holes in the adapter based on the size of the hole to properly supply the filter. As many of you know I made a design change in this past year to address the issue of socket fitment into the adapter. This was done by increasing the hole, but also lead to an increase on oil flow to the filter by using more holes of smaller diameter.

Well, the other adapter now being made in the UK is less holes with same ID for the socket clearance. So that means to me, since he wouldn't give me the specs, he use the smaller diameter holes but less of them which will decrease the oil available to the filter. This guy is also making a different version that is "lighter" and offers "more room" to change the filter. The lighter adapter is "thinner" and I am not sure if I am comfortable with the removal of additional material to "lighten" the adapter as it could possible crack between the bolt & supply holes.

At this time there are no US dealers that offer the adapter other than RPM. For the European customers there are Martyn from http://xjrparts.co.uk/oil-filter-conversion-kit-rpm---cmpof001-1866-p.asp is stocking the adapter. As always, you can find the genuine RPM adapter here; RPM Spin On Oil Filter Adapter

I also sell them on eBay, but these vendors should be able to save UK customers money as they have them in stock on the other side of the pond. I have not had one in my hand, but I have seen pictures and have been contacted by unhappy persons who thought they were buying a RPM adapter and were unhappy with the product they received.

The next batch of RPM oil filter adapters will have the logo machined into it so that you know you are getting a genuine RPM product and not something made by another.


Thank you for your continued support, Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

mikedastonfj1100

Thanks for the tip... I only buy real legit parts as it it... But ppl that try to mimic stuff should be hung from there boot straps...
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Grey runner

Got it! Thanks for the heads up. Are going to post on the English forum about this?
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racerrad8

Quote from: Grey runner on October 01, 2014, 02:57:53 AM
Got it! Thanks for the heads up. Are going to post on the English forum about this?

That is the kind of post that gets real touchy when I post on the "club" level international forums. Since I am not a paid member of the "club" I cannot post directly about my products or services.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

FJ1100mjk

Quote from: racerrad8 on October 02, 2014, 01:56:16 PM
Since I am not a paid member of the "club" I cannot post directly about my products or services.

Randy - RPM

I'm assuming that you mean you pay to be a member, then you can post about your products and services. Would you care to elaborate why you don't? Seems to me for the amount that you would pay to be a member of a forum, would be a fraction of what you could stand to make from the sale of your products and services. Wouldn't your payment(s) to become a member be an advertising deduction?

Is it too much of a PITA to bother with it all?

Just curious.
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racerrad8

Quote from: FJ1100mjk on October 02, 2014, 02:13:03 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on October 02, 2014, 01:56:16 PM
Since I am not a paid member of the "club" I cannot post directly about my products or services.

Randy - RPM

I'm assuming that you mean you pay to be a member, then you can post about your products and services. Would you care to elaborate why you don't?

Just curious.

Sure, these international forums that are more like clubs also carry a proprietary type of dealer & services options with them. They also offer other incentives which benefit the club membership like, club sponsored ride outs, discounts to other motorcycle events, ability to purchase from the club part provider, etc.

But when it comes to outside businesses creating competition with direct marketing posts, even if you pay as a "club member", posts made about my business or products that compete with the club suppliers are edited or deleted all together. They also block of sections of there forum which is only available to "paid" club members.

I have paid for several international "clubs" over the years to have my "advertising" be edited and deleted because it causes competition of the clubs specified provider or the club store itself. So, I have chosen not to be a paid club member for a forum which I cannot advertise, have my advertising posts edited/deleted or reap the benefits of the membership.

There are currently two international clubs that have worked out arrangements to offer RPM products in their stores. I still pay to be a member of their "club" which I can post and advertise without editing or deletion of my posts. I do not reap any of the other benefits offer by the club because I am half a world away.

But for the other "clubs", it is a waste of money for me to pay money and still have my posted edited or deleted.

The FJowners forum is great because it is free, a monetary donation if requested but not required. Any person or business can come here and post the offerings without being deleted or edited. I pay an annual fee to Marsh for this forum for an advertising banner which is only present for "guests" who do not sign up for the forum. Yes, there are sections of this forum that are blocked to the "guest" but if the sign up, whether they pay or not, they have complete access to the forum for the benefit of themselves or others if they have something to offer.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

FJ1100mjk

Quote from: racerrad8 on October 02, 2014, 02:35:45 PM

I have paid for several international "clubs" over the years to have my "advertising" be edited and deleted because it causes competition of the clubs specified provider or the club store itself.

Randy - RPM

What a joke. ^^^^

Thanks for explaining. Makes total sense.
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nurse

Quote from: racerrad8 on October 02, 2014, 02:35:45 PM
Quote from: FJ1100mjk on October 02, 2014, 02:13:03 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on October 02, 2014, 01:56:16 PM
Since I am not a paid member of the "club" I cannot post directly about my products or services.

Randy - RPM

I'm assuming that you mean you pay to be a member, then you can post about your products and services. Would you care to elaborate why you don't?

Just curious.

Sure, these international forums that are more like clubs also carry a proprietary type of dealer & services options with them. They also offer other incentives which benefit the club membership like, club sponsored ride outs, discounts to other motorcycle events, ability to purchase from the club part provider, etc.

But when it comes to outside businesses creating competition with direct marketing posts, even if you pay as a "club member", posts made about my business or products that compete with the club suppliers are edited or deleted all together. They also block of sections of there forum which is only available to "paid" club members.

I have paid for several international "clubs" over the years to have my "advertising" be edited and deleted because it causes competition of the clubs specified provider or the club store itself. So, I have chosen not to be a paid club member for a forum which I cannot advertise, have my advertising posts edited/deleted or reap the benefits of the membership.

There are currently two international clubs that have worked out arrangements to offer RPM products in their stores. I still pay to be a member of their "club" which I can post and advertise without editing or deletion of my posts. I do not reap any of the other benefits offer by the club because I am half a world away.

But for the other "clubs", it is a waste of money for me to pay money and still have my posted edited or deleted.

The FJowners forum is great because it is free, a monetary donation if requested but not required. Any person or business can come here and post the offerings without being deleted or edited. I pay an annual fee to Marsh for this forum for an advertising banner which is only present for "guests" who do not sign up for the forum. Yes, there are sections of this forum that are blocked to the "guest" but if the sign up, whether they pay or not, they have complete access to the forum for the benefit of themselves or others if they have something to offer.

Randy - RPM

Hi there I think this is a case of the less said the better!  I personally have doubts and reservations about the ethos behind they way some 'clubs' operate but that is my personal opinion, I know the members of these clubs are passionate and feel they get their money's worth and if they are happy and not hurting anyone then they are welcome to it. 

However all I would kindly and respectfully ask is that as a UK member of THIS community who has swapped many pounds for dollars and then promptly given them all to Randy, you continue to remember the people that choose to support you and look after those who have made the informed choice to cross YOUR palm with silver (especially when we live the wrong side of the pond!) I'm sure myself and other will continue to make the right choice when we do our shopping!!
Thanks to Randy et al!!!
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racerrad8

Quote from: nurse on October 02, 2014, 05:19:34 PM
However all I would kindly and respectfully ask is that as a UK member of THIS community who has swapped many pounds for dollars and then promptly given them all to Randy, you continue to remember the people that choose to support you and look after those who have made the informed choice to cross YOUR palm with silver (especially when we live the wrong side of the pond!) I'm sure myself and other will continue to make the right choice when we do our shopping!!
Thanks to Randy et al!!!

That is exactly what I will continue to do. There are many high ranking members of these clubs that buy from me as that is the best option regardless of their club affiliation.

I appreciate everyone continued support regardless of where they are located in the world. In fact it still awes me that I sell parts to places of the world I heard about in grade school and only to have that location recalled by someone buying from me who lives there. It really is great to be introduced to new people via what I have to offer and will continue to be here for each and all; no forum or club membership required.

Back to the topic at hand, I just wanted to make sure everyone is aware of someone in the UK who made oil filter adapters after buying one of mine and is marketing them as either RPM items or "just like the RPM" adapter.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

racerrad8

Quote from: racerrad8 on October 03, 2014, 01:44:32 PM
There are many high ranking members of these clubs that buy from me...
Randy - RPM

Here is an example I found today...

Randy - RPM

Randy - RPM

richie

Being the owner of the above bike and an official of the UK FJ Owners club (it's not just a forum base affair, but a full on club), I support Randy with what he says and would not deal with anyone copying his exclusive items. I have bought items from him as well as from my own clubs parts catalogue and will continue to do so.
1989 3CV in Custom Black.
2010 FJR in Smokey Grey.

racerrad8

Quote from: richie on October 03, 2014, 04:59:10 PM
Being the owner of the above bike and an official of the UK FJ Owners club (it's not just a forum base affair, but a full on club), I support Randy with what he says and would not deal with anyone copying his exclusive items. I have bought items from him as well as from my own clubs parts catalogue and will continue to do so.

Thanks Richie, I appreciate your words and support. Those are some great stickers I see in your garage, and is humbling to me to see my business/name in garages all over the world.

I understand the club level of the forum and understand the restrictions that come along with them. I still participate when I can on the international forums, I just have to be discreet when "promoting".

We are going to have to get you to post more than once every two years...your second post is one day past your original post two years ago...

Thanks again, Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

richie

I spend enough time in front of a keyboard as it is Randy (that makes three posts now!!  :dance2:).
1989 3CV in Custom Black.
2010 FJR in Smokey Grey.