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Started by shockeymon, July 22, 2014, 09:47:17 PM

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shockeymon

Just fired up my 89 1200 today for the 1st time in over 20 years. It sounds good, but some smoke coming off top of engine.  I cleaned carbs & gas tank. I had a little 2 stroke oil in the gas tank after I cleaned the rust out of it so it wouldn't flash rust. Also used diesel oil for 1st time. Sound like a major problem or will it possibly burn off & be ok

1989 FJ 1200
Kawasaki KZ750 L3

movenon

IMO just run it.....  Put a few tank fulls of gas through it.  And keep an eye out for oil leaks.  Fix as required.  Any bike or car that has been sitting for a few years will smoke a little. Just run it.     Sitting for 20 years... Needless to say all the rubber items should be changed out. Tires, hoses etc..
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

TexasDave

One of the rubber items George mentioned would be the rubber washers under the cylinder head cover bolts. Take off your tank and check the top of your motor. If they are in bad shape oil will leak from the top of your engine. Randy at RPM has them in stock. Do not over tighten the bolts after replacing the rubber washers.  Dave
A pistol is like a parachute, if you need one and don't have one you will never need one again.

Pat Conlon

Quote from: TexasDave on July 22, 2014, 10:45:26 PM
......Do not over tighten the bolts after replacing the rubber washers. 

Right on Dave....very good advice :good:

Shockeymon, listen to Dave....this is important.

If your valve cover rubber grommets leak, and they would after 20 years, replace the rubber grommets.
If you think you can stop the oil leaks by tightening the bolts, you *will* strip the soft aluminum threads out of the head. The valve cover bolts have a shoulder on them, they tighten down only so far, then, no more.

While you are ordering the 8 grommets, go ahead and get a fresh plyable valve cover gasket while you're at it.
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3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
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oldktmdude

Quote from: Pat Conlon on July 22, 2014, 11:18:56 PM
While you are ordering the 8 grommets, go ahead and get a fresh plyable valve cover gasket while you're at it.
I was just going to add the above information but as usual Pat's on the ball.  :i_am_so_happy:  Pete.
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2009 TDM 900
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shockeymon

Thanks guys great info. Now onto brake/clutch lines. Read about top end ones & advantage of adjustability, however for a guy w/o lots of $ saw some universal ones for $35 available in 2" increments up to 34" that sound viable. Thoughts? Are they measured to end of line or fittings? Does the clutch run standard brake line?
1989 FJ 1200
Kawasaki KZ750 L3

aviationfred

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1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

rktmanfj

Randy T
Indy

Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Psalms 144:1

'89 FJ1200
'90 FJ1200
'78 XT500
'88 XT350


FJ_Hooligan

Quote from: Pat Conlon on July 22, 2014, 11:18:56 PM
If you think you can stop the oil leaks by tightening the bolts, you *will* strip the soft aluminum threads out of the head. The valve cover bolts have a shoulder on them, they tighten down only so far, then, no more.

It's worse than that!  The cam cover bolts thread into the (realatively soft) aluminum cam caps.  Screw up one of those and your wallet will hate you.  I suppose you could helicoil them as long as the helicoil doesn't hit the cam journal. 

Best to heed the "do not overtighten" advice!

And for brake lines with adjustable banjo fittings, take a look at VENHILL!  Their approach to adjustability is FAR superior to anything else on the market.  Their prices are very reasonable.
DavidR.

racerrad8

Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on July 23, 2014, 12:27:29 PM
I suppose you could helicoil them as long as the helicoil doesn't hit the cam journal. 

Best to heed the "do not overtighten" advice!

Actually, you just remove the cap from the head and perform the Heli-Coil operation in the vise. That keeps all of the shavings out of the engine and there is no need to worry about the cam getting damaged either.

While that might be the best advise above, if someone before him has over tightened and pulled the threads can come out just by removing the bolt.

Randy - RPM

Randy - RPM

Fj.itis

Yep, i stripped mine when assembling just took the cap off and  like randy said, chuck it in a vise and helicoil away.

yamaha fj rider

Galfer lines, the banjo fittings are also adjustable.

Kurt
93 FJ1200
FJ 09
YZ250X I still love 2 strokes
Tenere 700
FJR1300ES

rktmanfj

Quote from: yamaha fj rider on July 23, 2014, 06:08:07 PM
Galfer lines, the banjo fittings are also adjustable.

Kurt

Perhaps some, but the Galfer clutch line I had needed to be swapped out when I changed m/cs because it didn't have them.  :pardon:

Randy T
Indy

Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Psalms 144:1

'89 FJ1200
'90 FJ1200
'78 XT500
'88 XT350


shockeymon

Well fired her up this evening & no smoke! Going to leave well enough alone for now & break down & order the Galfer lines. Also some Pirelli's (sport demons) & try to get this thing on the road! Thanks for all your input.
1989 FJ 1200
Kawasaki KZ750 L3

yamaha fj rider

Quote from: not a lib on July 23, 2014, 07:23:30 PM
Quote from: yamaha fj rider on July 23, 2014, 06:08:07 PM
Galfer lines, the banjo fittings are also adjustable.

Kurt

Perhaps some, but the Galfer clutch line I had needed to be swapped out when I changed m/cs because it didn't have them.  :pardon:


I don't know about the ones made in the past but the lines I installed this spring, instructions said they were adjustable.

Kurt
93 FJ1200
FJ 09
YZ250X I still love 2 strokes
Tenere 700
FJR1300ES