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Do you want to earn 25%...?

Started by racerrad8, June 05, 2014, 09:44:12 PM

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Are you willing to invest at a return of investment of 25%?

Yes
67 (93.1%)
No
5 (6.9%)

Total Members Voted: 71

Voting closed: June 13, 2014, 09:44:12 PM

oz.fj

Quote from: FJ111200 on June 07, 2014, 04:56:24 PM
FJ's and XJR's are on their last legs.

Well my 4 are not thanks to Randy and his continued support  :good:

After adding the fork valves and feeling the transformation I can not wait to get the rear shock.
This will make it happen sooner....I'm in.

                             VOTED

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92 XR 250
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racerrad8

Quote from: FJ111200 on June 07, 2014, 04:56:24 PM
Yeah right.  That's 'cos all the money will still be in your back pocket.

FJ's and XJR's are on their last legs.
On their last legs...?

Do you know something that the rest of the world does not; do you have access to Yamaha insider information?


The seems like an odd statement since you can still buy a brand new one; 2014 Yamaha XJR1300

So, based on my experience Yamaha will still be producing parts for many years to come as they have to provide parts for years, even after production stops.

Since, I cannot see the poll, I will take your comments as a "no" vote. That is how it system works and that is why I made it an option for you to vote.

Thank you for your opinion, but I do take offense to the notion you think I am doing this just to line my pockets. I do not know you from Adam, other than the posts I see that you make here and the single purchase you have made from me, but since you do not know me either, that is a very disrespectful statement to make.

Obviously by the edit to your original post (« Last Edit: Today at 02:03:31 PM by FJ111200 ») you have a specific problem with me, or since you do not know me have lumped my together with Doc and your poor experiences with him; which one is it?

So, how am I just like Doc?
      The only similarity I see is that we both work on & sell FJ/XJR parts, but you don't have to be a member of anything to purchase parts or get advice from me. I don't own a "club"; I own a business and offer parts and service to anyone that wants them without having to be a member of the "club", I don't need peoples money to just be a member.

Was there a problem with your single order you placed several years ago?

      If so, it would have been nice to know there was a problem then instead of being attacked more than two years after your purchase on the forum that I contribute to without any prejudice.

I am glad I was able to provide you with the parts you required when you placed your order, which were shipped the same day you placed the order because I spent my money to have the parts on the shelf, unlike most other online vendors. I also believe there a plenty of posts where I have offered advice and answered your questions since you have been a member here and unlike the UK forum, which you have mentioned several times you were "banned" from, my advice is always free. If I was charging you to be a member of a club to offer answers or advice, then maybe I could see that as generating additional funds and putting them into my my pockets, there is no RPMOC.

I will continue to help everyone, including you when I can, free of charge and if you ever have the opportunity and need a part from me, it will be on the shelf and headed your way without having to have it dropped shipped from elsewhere. If you don't want my advice when I post it, don't read it; but I'm sure you will as that is why you are here, to be a part of a community that shares the same interest; Yamaha FJ motorcycles.

One last question for you; If the FJ/XJR was on its last legs, why would Chinese starter manufactures go into production over the last couple of year of a single application starter for a bike on it's last legs?

Sorry, I have no need to line my pockets with the FJ Owners investment, I need to buy a business and this was one of the options I chose to explore for funding.

Hmmmm; I wonder, can you still buy parts for a 1940 Ford coupe, or a 69 Camaro, or how about a 70 Barracuda...?

Is there a diminishing return on the FJ?

I'll answer that one...
          Sure there is, but if I have the opportunity to buy a business that will allow us to continue to move forward with the FJ/XJR and that seems like a sound investment to me. If it does not to you, you have the option of not participating.

Who knows, there might be a time, when and if I can continue to grow, there might not be a single part you cannot buy from RPM for your "classic" FJ or XJR, just like all of these companies making aftermarket parts for the classic Fords, Chevys and Dodges.

I just looked at the calendar & clock on the wall here in beautiful, sun drenched California, it is a Saturday afternoon at a little before 5:00pm and I am here at the shop working...
      Yes, working; not riding my FJ, sitting by the pool or at the lake on a boat...

Did someone say they saw a 1986 FJ with electronic fuel injection recently...?

I wonder who is doing that; because it surely isn't Doc, or anyone else for that matter...

I am working at RPM to keep the FJ going for many, many years to come whether you think so or not.

But if you do have insider Yamaha information, that might be something you would want to share with the forum.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

motogp52

Randy, I have ordered parts from you on more than one occasion primarily due to your excellent reputation on this website. You're not going to please everybody no matter how good the customer service you provide. Thank you for helping keep the FJ's alive and running well. As for me I always plan on owning an FJ!  -Barry     :good2:
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DB Cooper

I've still got a little ransom money left.......
Vote has been submitted - I'm in!
Kevin
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big r

Randy has been nothing but a gentleman. I ordered some parts from him and he phoned me to let me know that they were on their way and also to let me know that he was short a couple parts. He wanted to know if I had a problem waiting for them to arrive or if I wanted him to ship right a way. I told him to wait and ship everything at once. I don't know what the fellow from England has a problem with but he should pull his out of his ass and think a bit. Big R

Mike Ramos

Greetings everyone,

Collectively, we are fortunate enough to have the gentleman from R.P.M. in supplying parts (and services as well) for the old FJ's so as to ensure the motorcycle does not become obsolete. 

Personally, it is my opinion that the "old" FJ which I ride competes successfully with any other motorcycle (and a few cars as well) across a broad spectrum of roads and conditions; from cross country rides to spirited country road riding it readily holds it own.  There has been more than one video and substantial written correspondence posted on this Forum which supports this position.

As compared to any 'modern' motorcycle, the FJ is certainly not on its' "last legs".  Also, it would be interesting to be around in 30 years from now to see what "modern" motorcycle maintains the interest of as many people as does the FJ today.

Count me in for the 25%: not so much for the personal gain for any individual but, over the long run, for the benefit of all FJ riders.

Ride safe,

Mike Ramos.







TexasDave

Well said. My feelings exactly. Dave
A pistol is like a parachute, if you need one and don't have one you will never need one again.

airheadPete

Quote from: FJ111200 on June 07, 2014, 04:56:24 PM
Yeah right.  That's 'cos all the money will still be in your back pocket.

FJ's and XJR's are on their last legs.

You're just like Doc at FJOC.

I'll never buy anything off you or him again.
OK, so you might not be happy with Randy for some unknown reason.
(There are a million stories out there...)

If so, you don't need to vote for him, otherwise we're due a congent explanation of why you're so ticked off.
It seems most of us have had no problems with him, what went so sour with you???
'92 FJ1200.    '84 R100CS
'78 GS750E.   '81 R100RS
'76 R90/6       '89 R100GS
'65 R60/2

roverfj1200

Randy I would be up for 2 or 3.

Hope you get this off the ground.
1988 FJ1200
1991 FJ1200

Richard.

pdxfj

It's the internet folks.. someone always has to be a troll and try to take a dump in the cheerios.  

Randy hasn't asked for a penny.. not one red cent.. all he's asked for is those who can and are willing to commit to help him grow his business to step up and say "Yes or No".

What Randy is doing is nothing different than Kickstarter or Indigogo.  The power of the internet has made it possible to reach out to millions of individuals to pitch an idea and ask to donate a few bucks.  Those small donations add up quick.  Hell, I donated some cash to a gal on Indigogo to buy a sewing machine of all things.  Being a single guy/geek I had no 'effing idea what a "surger" was.. I had to look it up.  She was needing it to help grow her business and make costumes for a local children's theater.

I have never met the above mentioned woman, but have been following her blog and such for well over over a year and seeing all the things she does for kids, and the sheer amount of talent she has, I felt it was money well spent.  It wasn't a lot of money out of my pocket (to me), but my donation and others helped more then double the requested amount.

A number of us have met Randy in person. There isn't a dishonest bone in his body.  He's much like the gal I mentioned above.  Trying to grow a business with the knowledge, talent and skills to do so.  People with that kind of entrepreneurial spirit is what helps this country grow.

One last thing.  For those who can and are willing to help Randy, I would suggest keeping your funding amount to yourself.  As he has pointed out several times, just vote now and worry about the dollar amount later.  At this early stage it's just a fact finding mission to see if the idea is even feasible.

Harvy

Quote from: big r on June 07, 2014, 10:11:36 PM
I don't know what the fellow from England has a problem with. Big R


And so for he's not telling!

As Garth said, some of us have met the man (yes even us Aussies).........you wouldn't find a better bloke to call a friend or to do business with.


Harvy
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Alf

Quote from: FJ111200 on June 07, 2014, 04:56:24 PM
Yeah right.  That's 'cos all the money will still be in your back pocket.

FJ's and XJR's are on their last legs.

You're just like Doc at FJOC.

I'll never buy anything off you or him again.

I have no complains at all with Doc or Randy. I consider that both of them have done a lot to sink the 2nd hand prices of our FJs due to there a LOT of them circulating around the world with excellent spares & mods supply (its a joke!!)   :good2:
The only fact that support the 2nd hand prices of worst bikes like VF 1000 R or GPZ 900s are their mechanical fragility hence scarce units in good shape

I simply starting buying from Randy for the tax Canary Island status inside the EU... and discovered a guy that to accelerate the delivery to my corner in the middle in the Atlantic Ocean send the parts before to get the money. I remember 2 years ago that I sent 4 mails along 2 months to get paying an order that I had in my hands...  :ireful:  :hi:

And I really admire and envy Doc when I see his race triumphs.  :flag_of_truce:

Voted. Count me in

Hey, Marsh: I think the free opinion right is limited for the individual honour right. Topics like this accusing a member of trying to appropriate money from the members would must be demanded an explanation or get an expulsion if the only aim is injuring

fintip

Total members of the site isn't a good way to peg how much support you might get; you need a list of active members, people who will even see this thread. It's likely to be less than 15% of that big number you're looking at.

It might be better to do this as a kickstarter and share it with the FJ facebook groups. You can offer 125 gift cards for 100 donations there, as well, quite easily.

You also don't have to worry about people saying yes now, and disappearing later--saying yes means a commitment that will all sort itself out once the numbers are met, or no money moves if the numbers aren't.

I don't have much, but I'd be in for at least 100. You're a guy worth supporting.

All the best.
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movenon

Quote from: FJ111200 on June 07, 2014, 04:56:24 PM
Yeah right.  That's 'cos all the money will still be in your back pocket.

FJ's and XJR's are on their last legs.

You're just like Doc at FJOC.

I'll never buy anything off you or him again.

The first comment is a bit harsh and uncalled for, IMO.  You would be better off asking intelligent questions expressing your concerns or just stepping aside. Randy is not making anything mandatory or required.  He is just proposing a plan.

"on their last legs",  Giving you the benefit of doubt,  that might have been poorly expressed.  Yes they are not state of the art and long in the tooth.  Perhaps evolving into a special interest or collector category.  A lot of FJ's are bought because they are inexpensive for what you get.  Some parts are being discontinued  from Yamaha and more will go away in the future.  But if there is demand the reproduction industry will fill in.  I have seen this evolution before.
On its last legs, I don't think so. Evolving yes.  Where it evolves to depends on the demand.

Here in the U.S. I might be leary of getting involved with a person in the UK that I have never met or know anything about so I can understand your concern but if I was interested I would do some (or a lot) of checking around.  The internet is good for that.  I don't know "DOC" or have any opinion of him but if I wanted information on him I could check the forums out and get ton's of information on him from other members in just a few days.

I have met Randy at 2 rallies and was to his shop once.  I order some parts from him and from others.  He is as honest and straight forward as you can get.  He has helped many FJ owners with free information, some of which takes a lot of experience to acquire with out demanding or requiring you to purchase from him.  If you had ever met him you would understand his honesty and desire to support the FJ community.  Yes he has a business, he is also a fellow rider and makes no demand that you buy from him.  Like I noted, I buy from him along with others.  I think Randy sees a void in the FJ product line and is trying to fill it.  It is a symbiotic relationship, its helps him and the FJ community.  What more can you ask for ?  

Personally if Randy needs 100.00 I will give it to him and not give a rats ass what he does with it because he needs it.  He has what we refer to in the military "core values".  You would want him as a neighbor, friend or family member.  And if you want to profile me, I am what you call a "pensioner". Not rich,  not poor just getting along in life.  I don't just piss money away and anyone that knows me is aware that I am a "value" oriented person.  

I voted.
George




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