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Top end rattle

Started by Ront, May 17, 2014, 06:52:14 PM

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Ront

Hi I posted last weekend about a sudden top end rattle and checked the headpipes-not it-took off valve cover-everything looks allright-I think the cam chain tensioner might not be holding chain tight-looks like carbs will have to come back off to get at it.  Anyone have a experience with the Ape YT1000 manual tensioner? Thanks

rktmanfj


If you're hell bent on having one, I have a brand new one...

Randy T
Indy

Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Psalms 144:1

'89 FJ1200
'90 FJ1200
'78 XT500
'88 XT350


FJmonkey

He he, the FJ is a noisy air cooled beast that keeps going regardless of noise...
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Bminder

Before you pull the carbs, you might take an allen wrench and make sure the two bolts that hold the tensioner on are tight. Mine were finger-lose.  It's a tight fit but you can get the wrench on them to check.
Billy Minder
92 FJ1200 ABS

movenon

I would be surprised if it was the cam chain tensioner.  But It worth a check.  Here is a file to read. http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=5620.0
Comes apart easier than it go's back together...  :lol: Just been there, done that..
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

Ront

Has anyone ever heard of a stock 86 fj1200 cam chain tensioner backing off a little and allowing some slack in the chain causing a rattle? Thanks

movenon

Quote from: Ront on May 17, 2014, 08:08:26 PM
Has anyone ever heard of a stock 86 fj1200 cam chain tensioner backing off a little and allowing some slack in the chain causing a rattle? Thanks

If the 12mm main bolt (holding the spring tension) is on tight and the 2 Allen screws holding the whole assembly are on tight then that's it. There is no adjustment. Just spring tension pushing against a piston on to the chain guide.
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

racerrad8

No, it is a ratcheting tensioner and would require the ratchet mechanism to strip to loose tension.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

rktmanfj


No, but I do believe you're halfway to the record for starting multiple threads on the same topic...    :pardon:

Randy T
Indy

Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Psalms 144:1

'89 FJ1200
'90 FJ1200
'78 XT500
'88 XT350


movenon

Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

Ront

I won't post any more posts on my top end rattle because I DO NOT want to break the record(the record holder might get upset)-but I did forget to mention the rattle started after I revved the bike to 8 grand full throttle but I should be able to do that right?

ribbert

Quote from: Ront on May 17, 2014, 09:00:09 PM
...... the rattle started after I revved the bike to 8 grand full throttle but I should be able to do that right?

...and a bit more, over and over and over........

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

racerrad8

Quote from: Ront on May 17, 2014, 09:00:09 PM
I won't post any more posts on my top end rattle because I DO NOT want to break the record(the record holder might get upset)-but I did forget to mention the rattle started after I revved the bike to 8 grand full throttle but I should be able to do that right?

Are you sure it did not spit a valve shim?

Randy. - RPM
Randy - RPM

FJmonkey

Quote from: racerrad8 on May 17, 2014, 11:34:42 PM
Are you sure it did not spit a valve shim?
Randy. - RPM
Does that happen?  :shok:
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

racerrad8

Quote from: FJmonkey on May 18, 2014, 12:43:54 AM
Does that happen?  :shok:

Yep, just had to repair Poker007's 1100 a couple months back from that exact thing. He too was riding the bike pretty hard when it spit out the shim and broke it into a bunch of little pieces.

If it gets spooled up enough to have valve float, the shim losses contact with the cam lobe. Then when the valve slams shut against the seat, the shim can pop out of the bucket.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM