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will 1100 gauges work in my 1200?

Started by a.graham52, May 11, 2014, 06:06:53 AM

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a.graham52

none of the gauges work right in my 86 1200. speedo bounces around, fuel gauge bounces but is now stuck on the other side of the E needle and the tach some times goes down a bit when you give her a pull before coming up. some times not at what i feel is actual acceleration. my father bought a cluster off of ebay that came off a 1100 and i was wondering if it would be possible to just swap out the internals.

red

Quote from: a.graham52 on May 11, 2014, 06:06:53 AMnone of the gauges work right in my 86 1200. speedo bounces around, fuel gauge bounces but is now stuck on the other side of the E needle and the tach some times goes down a bit when you give her a pull before coming up. some times not at what i feel is actual acceleration. my father bought a cluster off of ebay that came off a 1100 and i was wondering if it would be possible to just swap out the internals.
a.graham,

I do not know if the older gauges will work on the 1986. 

Most likely, the speedometer needle bounces around because the speedometer cable core needs lubrication.  I doubt that any new speedometer (gauge) will fix that problem.  Put the right size "square drive" Apex bit into a reversible drill-motor, and you can test the speedometer gauge without the cable.  If the speedometer reads smoothly using the drill, just slide the cable core out of the speedometer cable, and use any good grease (except Lithium) to lube the core.  It may be that you need a new speedometer cable, but usually cable lubrication will fix an erratic speedometer.

The fuel and tachometer gauges may be the victims of a dirty ground.  You should unscrew and clean the instrument grounding first (and manually put the fuel needle back into the normal range), before you try gauges which may or may not work on your bike.  Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Red
Cheers,
Red

P.S. Life is too short, and health is too valuable, to ride on cheap parade-duty tires.

movenon

The 88-93 fuel gage has the digital clock in it.  And I think the speedo has a different face. As far as changing the whole thing out I know the 88-93's have a different lens cover so they might be slightly different in shape.  That's about all the information I can add.
If you buy another used cluster try to get one with a good lens cover, that way you will have an extra or sell one to help defray some of your cost. There is a reasonable demand for the 84-87  lens.
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

a.graham52

Yeah I was woundering if I could just take the two of them apart and swap parts around

Pat Conlon

Quote from: red on May 11, 2014, 08:10:20 AM
"........slide the cable core out of the speedometer cable, and use any good grease (except Lithium) to lube the core....."
Cheers,
Red

oops, I just lubed my speedo cable with white lithium grease....Red, why do you say that?
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

FJmonkey

I got an 1100 speedo to work, had to swap a few things around. Now my FJ has low miles...  :lol:
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
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red

Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 11, 2014, 05:59:34 PM
Quote from: red on May 11, 2014, 08:10:20 AM"........slide the cable core out of the speedometer cable, and use any good grease (except Lithium) to lube the core....."
Cheers,   Red
oops, I just lubed my speedo cable with white lithium grease....Red, why do you say that?
Pat,

White lithium grease and black moly greases are often incompatible.  They quickly form a sandy abrasive substance that does not work as grease, but more like grit.  Just clean everything with a de-greaser, followed by brake cleaner, and then choose either type of grease, but do not mix them.  White lithium grease penetrates better, but it is for light duty such as bicycle chains and car doors (non-staining).  Google can find extensive grease compatibility charts, but you would have to know what was there first (by chemistry), so it's just simpler to say, "do not mix them."

Cheers,
Red
Cheers,
Red

P.S. Life is too short, and health is too valuable, to ride on cheap parade-duty tires.

Dan Filetti

Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 11, 2014, 05:59:34 PMoops, I just lubed my speedo cable with white lithium grease...

Uh, you'll go blind doing that.

Dan
Live hardy, or go home. 

DB Cooper

You should be able to get the fuel needle back around by waving a rare earth magnet over top of the needle.  It might take a few tries but it will come back around.
Kevin
I remember when sex was safe and skydiving was dangerous.

ribbert

Quote from: red on May 11, 2014, 07:43:30 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 11, 2014, 05:59:34 PM
Quote from: red on May 11, 2014, 08:10:20 AM"........slide the cable core out of the speedometer cable, and use any good grease (except Lithium) to lube the core....."
Cheers,   Red
oops, I just lubed my speedo cable with white lithium grease....Red, why do you say that?
Pat,

White lithium grease and black moly greases are often incompatible.  They quickly form a sandy abrasive substance that does not work as grease, but more like grit.  Just clean everything with a de-greaser, followed by brake cleaner, and then choose either type of grease, but do not mix them.  White lithium grease penetrates better, but it is for light duty such as bicycle chains and car doors (non-staining).  Google can find extensive grease compatibility charts, but you would have to know what was there first (by chemistry), so it's just simpler to say, "do not mix them."

Cheers,
Red

Wheel bearing grease has always been the lubricant of choice for speedo cables because it suits the application and is widely available, that is, most people already have some.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

Pat Conlon

Thanks Red, I did not know that......the cable was new and dry so I should be ok...
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3