Its only a matter of time for those lucky California drivers.

[movenon]

What are pikes and heads for? 

[TexasDave]

What are pikes and heads for? 

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants ."
― Thomas Jefferson
I think we are over due.    Dave                                                                                                                                  

[Capn Ron]

Newsflash: Californias middle class leaving in droves. Californias lawmakers mystified why

The Torrance Toyota facility is moving to Texas next year. I wonder why?

And taking 4,000 or so jobs with them.  What's left in Torrance is mostly administration and management and the PC line from Toyota is that they aren't leaving the state of California over regulation and taxes...they just need to be closer to manufacturing.  Manufacturing left years ago over taxes and regulation.   

Cap'n Ron. . .

[TexasDave]

Toyota's official line was that they wanted a more centralized location for their mfg plant. But they did tell the employees they would have a better standard of living in Texas. Better schools, no state income tax, cheaper cost of living and they could buy 3x the house for 1/2 the price.  Dave

[Capn Ron]

Toyota's official line was that they wanted a more centralized location for their mfg plant. But they did tell the employees they would have a better standard of living in Texas. Better schools, no state income tax, cheaper cost of living and they could buy 3x the house for 1/2 the price.  Dave

Dave,

Why is this so crystal clear to you and I...but seems a mystery to more than 1/2 the population of California?  I bought a house in the San Fernando Valley north west of LA...  in the last 13 years, I've seen HUGE chunks of land that were industrial...manufacturing...Panavision, Catalina Yachts, Rocketdyne, Aerospace...All move out of either state or country...and the old buildings are getting bulldozed and replaced with enormous condo/apartment complexes.  Everyone wants to live here, but there is no longer any non-service oriented work here.  Sad this.

WHEN I abandon California...Texas is one of the contenders.   

Cap'n Ron. . .

[simi_ed]

Another excrement agitator, my kind of guy 

[TexasDave]

Another excrement agitator, my kind of guy  

Yes I'm still stirring the shit and for the Oregon drivers its almost ready to eat. I said this "voluntary road tax" would wind up mandatory and it has. California's "voluntary road tax" won't be to far down the road (pun intended).Lower Gas Prices Can't Last – Soon You May Be Taxed for Every Mile You Drive

12/26/2014 - 8:00 AM EST From the Philadelphia Inquirer


NEW YORK ( MainStreet) — You knew the good news couldn't last. Low prices at the pump seem like a budget-saving end-of-the-year bonus for most of us. But because Americans are driving more fuel-efficient vehicles , the government is seeing drastically lower tax revenues. And they're going to find a way to make up the shortfall, by either increasing taxes on every precious drop of fuel – driving the price of gas back up – or by imposing a "mileage tax."



Federal and state taxes amount to about 50 cents per gallon, on average. And with Americans buying less gas, tax income is plummeting. The fact that cars are mandated to become even more fuel efficient in the years ahead, combined with the possibility of more drivers opting for electric or hybrid vehicles , is also fueling legislators' concern. More than a dozen states are seeking a solution that raises the ire of many drivers – a tax on the number of miles you drive. Oregon will be the first state out of the gate with such a mileage tax


Beginning in July, Oregon motorists will be charged 1.5 cents per mile in order to help span the gap of declining fuel taxes that support half of the state's budget to maintain and operate its highway system. The state is working to move from a fuel consumption-based tax system to a "road usage" revenue base tax.

[FJools]

Rush's song Red Barchetta springs to mind ..........................

[Mark Olson]

Well that is going to suck, My service truck gets 7 mpg and I already pay a fuck-ton to the state for fuel.

I thought they stopped this last year when they tried to pass it. Time to call my lobbyist.

[pdxfj]

Actually the Oregon per mile tax is voluntary starting July 1st.  ODOT wants 5,000 volunteers to sign up for the program and have a GPS mileage tracking device installed in their vehicles.  An alternative is to track by regular odometer readings. 

Portland is working on a street privilege/usage tax to pay for road improvements.  Never mind the fact our former gay, child molesting mayor stole all the road improvement/maintenance money along with the money for improvements and maintenance to the water and sewer systems to pay for bike lanes.  Differed any and all road repairs and improvements for the four years he was in office.  Water and sewer rates are expected to climb 80%+ over the next few years to put money back into repairs, upgrades, etc.

Texas Dave's quote is 100% true and we are very overdue....

[copper]

Very interesting, I see california only has to wait a few more days and the price will rise over night.

http://cafuelfacts.com/cap-and-trade-for-fuels/
http://www.californiadriversalliance.org/about/ (this one has a petition that can be signed)

Just google cailfornia 2015 gas tax and there are hundreds of similar posts

[PaulG]

"...to make sure that we find out whether it would work, whether the public would like it or not," ..."this would be a voluntary program,"

Yes please, tax me more. No doubt I will like it just as much as my colonoscopy without anaethstetic.  I would gladly volunteer, as soon as I'm finished with my other volunteer program of anthrax injections by the US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases.

FFS - if one state does it, they will all do it.  Cash cows don't recognise borders. Since when has a "voluntary" (let alone involuntary) tax ever been recinded?  Remember that income tax was a "temporary" measure to pay for WW1.  No doubt if the Ontario provincial government "up here" gets wind of this (and I'm sure they are wringing their hands in glee at the prospect of a new "green" measure) - we will probably have it legislated here before the Cali. program becomes law.  Minus the "voluntary" phase.   

If Mayor Tommy Shanks was in charge, this would never fly...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n245u_GB3c&index=54&list=PLjNKJ6bCc99SoAt60Q9psiHCjqvxOIbr3

[Steve_in_Florida]

I've considered joining an organised crime gang but have concluded that the only way to really get ahead of the system is to become a politician.

I was thinking about this just the other day, and decided I want to be a Senator.   

Mayor: Yes! If I can show just how much I turned South Park around, I could become a Senator.

Aide 2: Maybe even a State Senator.

I'm now accepting campaign contributions via PayPal.

Steve