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1984 Yamaha fj 1100

Started by mikedastonfj1100, March 28, 2014, 06:11:12 PM

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mikedastonfj1100

how do I upload photos? I have pics of piston walls now...they look fine... piston tops look normal wear... all intake valves on carburetor side don't look fully seated with camshafts out....
"I live my life 1/4 mile at a time. Within that 10 seconds or less, I'm free".... Fast and the furious quote said by vin dessel...

FJmonkey

Quote from: FJmonkey on March 28, 2014, 12:00:10 PM
Posting photos is easy once you get the important details down. First, you need to publish them on the web somewhere. Flicker, Photobucket, Picasa, etc.... Or post them to you photo album in the FJowners gallery. Once they are publicly accessable, you need to copy the URL or path to that photo. Most of the time you can right click on the photo you want and chose the option like "Copy image/file location". When you paste it it will look like this: http://fjowners.com/gallery/3/104_20_10_12_5_59_46_7.jpeg

Then insert this [ img ][ /img ] (Note: spaces added to prevent it from reading as code.
Then put the URL in between the [ img ]http://fjowners.com/gallery/3/104_20_10_12_5_59_46_7.jpeg[ /img ]

Remove the spaces and you get the photo to display like below.




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Capn Ron

Quote from: mikedastonfj1100 on March 29, 2014, 04:22:50 PM
To capn Ron...

I see the two pistons u have.. What did u use to clean them with?

Hey Mike...

I pulled each piston and set them on the bench in order 1-2-3-4 and was mindful of the orientation.  I then cleaned each one individually and marked it with a Sharpie as to it's position in the engine and within each cylinder.  I wrote the numbers as I would read them sitting on the bike 1-4 from left to right.  That process in place, I just gave the top of each piston a shot with Easy-Off oven cleaner and let it sit for...ohhh...30 minutes.  I then scraped the resulting sludge off with a plastic scraper.  I then hit it again with oven cleaner and let it sit for 30 minutes and used a green scrunge to clean up the last little bits of carbon.  They came out looking like new!  Then I set about measuring them each in six ways...and likewise the cylinders with a bore gauge...Put a quick "freshening hone" on the cylinder walls, fitted up fresh rings and reinstalled.

Cap'n Ron. . .
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mikedastonfj1100

Awesome tip :good:  ...... Will give it a try... When u say green scrunge, do u mean one for cleaning pots and pans with?
"I live my life 1/4 mile at a time. Within that 10 seconds or less, I'm free".... Fast and the furious quote said by vin dessel...

FJmonkey

Quote from: mikedastonfj1100 on April 01, 2014, 01:51:40 PM
Awesome tip :good:  ...... Will give it a try... When u say green scrunge, do u mean one for cleaning pots and pans with?

Maybe he meant one of these.

The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

mikedastonfj1100

"I live my life 1/4 mile at a time. Within that 10 seconds or less, I'm free".... Fast and the furious quote said by vin dessel...

Capn Ron

Quote from: mikedastonfj1100 on April 01, 2014, 01:51:40 PM
Awesome tip :good:  ...... Will give it a try... When u say green scrunge, do u mean one for cleaning pots and pans with?

Yes, exactly!  Well, not *exactly*...those scrubbing pads are available from a good hardware store in different grits.  White, red, green and black from the least abrasive to the most abrasive.  I keep those on hand and only go as gritty as the job calls for.  The green one did the trick with a little added elbow grease.   The one on the back of the pot scrubber sponge will do the same job!  :yes:

Cap'n Ron. . .
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mikedastonfj1100

http://fjowners.com/gallery/7/thumb_4013_01_04_14_1_29_07_3.jpeg 
http://fjowners.com/gallery/7/thumb_4013_01_04_14_1_29_05_2.jpeg
http://fjowners.com/gallery/7/thumb_4013_01_04_14_1_28_59_0.jpeg
http://fjowners.com/gallery/7/thumb_4013_01_04_14_1_29_02_1.jpeg

this is as far as I got.... im thinking the rings are fine.... felt the walls for any scoring and found none.... forgot to take a pic of bottom of head to show valves... all intake valves were not fully seated... im thinkin possible bent or stuck valves....

what do you guys think??
"I live my life 1/4 mile at a time. Within that 10 seconds or less, I'm free".... Fast and the furious quote said by vin dessel...

Flynt

Quote from: mikedastonfj1100 on April 01, 2014, 04:53:05 PM
what do you guys think??

I think you need to post some bigger pictures...  by the time I zoom in enough to see anything, the resolution is horrible.  I'm not sure you'll get much feedback from these pics.

Frank
There's plenty of time for sleep in the grave...

FJmonkey

The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

racerrad8

Quote from: Flynt on April 01, 2014, 05:10:01 PM
I think you need to post some bigger pictures…
Frank

Go to the gallery, you can zoom in on them.

I see what appears to be scoring on the cylinder with the piston at the bottom.

Pull the cylinders so you can see the piston skirts and cylinders better.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

mikedastonfj1100

I will pull the pistons when I can find replacement rings... I'm gonna try some oil in the cylinders tomorrow... Maybe it might solve the compression...
"I live my life 1/4 mile at a time. Within that 10 seconds or less, I'm free".... Fast and the furious quote said by vin dessel...

Flynt

Quote from: racerrad8 on April 01, 2014, 06:03:04 PM
Go to the gallery, you can zoom in on them.

Thanks Randy...

Other than the scoring you can't see much here and nothing that looks catastrophic or would give you zero compression...  keep looking.  

Did you take pics of the head as well?  Definitely doesn't look like the valves hit the pistons...  not sure how they'd be bent.  They could be partially open just from poor/no valve adjustments?

Frank
There's plenty of time for sleep in the grave...

Capn Ron

The pics in full size:









Yeah, I agree with most here...no smoking gun short of a little scoring of the cylinder walls on that last pic. 

Watching this thread with great interest...

Cap'n Ron. . .
Cap'n Ron. . .


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