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Any good turnsignal mod? Mounting points?

Started by keand3, January 03, 2014, 03:57:06 AM

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keand3

Hi Guys, and happy new year!

I have prepped my new fiberglass top fairing for painting, and the only thing left is to cut out the holes for the turnsignals..
This got me thinking. Since the fiberglass fairing don't come With the back bracket/mounting Points for the turnsignal (the one you have screw in) I thought i might look into other ways of achieving turnsignals.
By that i mean Mount new one elsewhere etc.

I Guess there got to be someone on this forum that have done this? I would risk cutting the holes to find them not Perfect fir to the lenses, and ending up with gluing them on the fairing etc..
The search function didn't turn up any thread which awnsered my question.

Cheers
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Country Joe

I had to repair the turn signal mounting tabs on my fairing where the screws attach. I made a tab for each side from 26 gauge sheet metal, folded over to double the thickness and then I used JB Weld to attach them to the fairing. I would imagine you could do something similar and fiberglass the bracket to the inside of the fairing. You might look for some flush mount  turn signals for other bikes as well.
1993 FJ 1200

Dads_FJ

John S.

'84 Yamaha FJ1100
'89 Yamaha FJ1250 (XJR top-end)
'94 Yamaha WR250
'80 BMW R100S/Sidecar
'39 BSA WM20

FJmonkey

Ken has an aftermarket fiberglass 86 upper fairing. It does not have the cutout or the mounting tabs for the forward turn signals. So he could attempt to put the stock units in, but that requires accurate cutting where the unit go and fabbing up mounting tabs, or he could do something different since the holes are cut yet. Am I close Ken?
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

giantkiller

Yes. There are so many after market flush mount turn signals. That would look great. Much better than the big stalks the 1100s have.
86 fj1350r
86 fj1380t turbo drag toy (soon)
87 fj1200 865 miles crashed for parts
89 fj1200 touring 2up
87 fzr1000 crashed
87 fzr750r Human Race teams world endurance champion
93 fzr600 Vance n hines ltd for sale
Custom chopper I built
Mini chopper I built for my daughter just like the big 1

Dads_FJ

Opps, I missed the point entirely, my apologies.  I fitted flush signals on my '84, I think it gave it a much sleeker look.

John S.

'84 Yamaha FJ1100
'89 Yamaha FJ1250 (XJR top-end)
'94 Yamaha WR250
'80 BMW R100S/Sidecar
'39 BSA WM20

keand3

Quote from: FJmonkey on January 03, 2014, 11:02:15 AM
Ken has an aftermarket fiberglass 86 upper fairing. It does not have the cutout or the mounting tabs for the forward turn signals. So he could attempt to put the stock units in, but that requires accurate cutting where the unit go and fabbing up mounting tabs, or he could do something different since the holes are cut yet. Am I close Ken?

Hey Mark!
Sorry for the late response, for some reason i haven't gotten a email warning of any reply on this thread and have been busy at work.

Anyway, yes you are spot on Mark !! Its a aftermarket fiberglass fairing, and it damn nice too.. The only drawback is the mounting tab as you mention.
I have not cut the holes yet as i am afraid the need to pretty accurate, therefore i am look for alternative solutions.

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keand3

Quote from: Dads_FJ on January 03, 2014, 07:12:49 PM
Opps, I missed the point entirely, my apologies.  I fitted flush signals on my '84, I think it gave it a much sleeker look.



Yes those look like perfect solution for me!  :good2: Were did you get them and how are they mounted?
I need to figure this out by this week, as I need to ship all my fairings part out for painting..

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keand3

Quote from: Country Joe on January 03, 2014, 07:26:13 AM
I had to repair the turn signal mounting tabs on my fairing where the screws attach. I made a tab for each side from 26 gauge sheet metal, folded over to double the thickness and then I used JB Weld to attach them to the fairing. I would imagine you could do something similar and fiberglass the bracket to the inside of the fairing. You might look for some flush mount  turn signals for other bikes as well.

Yes that's a good alternative, but since my fairing is a aftermarket fiberglass on, the holes doesn't come pre-cut. And it would be a shame to destroy the looks of it by badly cut holes.
That's the reason i am look for something else you see  :yes:

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Dads_FJ

Quote from: keand3 on January 08, 2014, 05:38:13 AM
Quote from: Dads_FJ on January 03, 2014, 07:12:49 PM
Opps, I missed the point entirely, my apologies.  I fitted flush signals on my '84, I think it gave it a much sleeker look.





Yes those look like perfect solution for me!  :good2: Were did you get them and how are they mounted?
I need to figure this out by this week, as I need to ship all my fairings part out for painting..



Here ya' go:  http://www.lockhartphillipsusa.com/LP-USA-SPORTBIKE-FLUSH-MOUNT-I-TURN-SIGNAL-BLACK-AMBER-SINGLE-FILAMENT.html

or   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Amber-Flush-Mount-I-Single-Filament-Marker-Light-/331087945129?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d16611da9&vxp=mtr

Available in smoke too, but not be legal:  http://www.lockhartphillipsusa.com/LP-USA-SPORTBIKE-FLUSH-MOUNT-I-TURN-SIGNAL-BLACK-SMOKE-SINGLE-FILAMENT.html


Mounting is quite easy, three small holes (two for mounting the unit to the fairing and one to run the wires through).  They are available from Parts Unlimited or other Motorcycle parts suppliers.  Good luck!
John S.

'84 Yamaha FJ1100
'89 Yamaha FJ1250 (XJR top-end)
'94 Yamaha WR250
'80 BMW R100S/Sidecar
'39 BSA WM20

giantkiller

I had the smoked ones on my 87 fzr1000. Back in 87-90. Never got in trouble but. It does give them an excuse to pull you over if they want to.
86 fj1350r
86 fj1380t turbo drag toy (soon)
87 fj1200 865 miles crashed for parts
89 fj1200 touring 2up
87 fzr1000 crashed
87 fzr750r Human Race teams world endurance champion
93 fzr600 Vance n hines ltd for sale
Custom chopper I built
Mini chopper I built for my daughter just like the big 1

keand3

Thanks John!

I will bee taking them a closer look when time comes. I do believe smoked/tinted is leagal here i Norway, so i might buy those.
Always fun to get pulled over...  :good2: :rofl2:
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FeralRdr

I actually started looking for a solution to this problem about a few years ago when one of my turn signals fell out of my upper fairing on my '87 (inner mounting tabs finally gave out).  I was able to cement the mounting tabs back together, but I figured that it was only a matter of time until I was going to have to come up with a new solution.  A few ideas I considered.


  • Bar End Turn Signals:  I started seeing these show up on the market about a year ago, and I figured it wouldn't be difficult to wire them in.  The problem I personally had with the models I found, was that they didn't seem to provide any vibration damping, and I would have had to give up my Vibranators.  Without the Vibranators, my hands would go numb fairly quickly and because of that, I wasn't willing to give them up in order to put turn signals in the bar ends.
  • Turn Signals in the Mirrors:  I seriously considered these as a preferred option, however I was also looking for mirrors that would let me see more than my shoulders.  Unfortunately, I never found a set that would meet this dual criteria of a superior rear view and integrated turn signals.
  • Install Turn Signals on Amber Reflector Mounts:  A few years ago, I was trying to install LED turn signals into my Dowco Saddle Bags, and ended up purchasing a set of amber reflectors with integrated LED's.  I wasn't able to get them to function as turn signals (they required more power than the turn signal wires provided), but they worked great as marker lights (powered directly off the battery) so I swapped out my OEM amber reflectors with these.  I found that the mounting points would also work well for turn signals, but where as the reflectors wouldn't make the best turn signals (they can't be seen well from the front of the bike) a set of Rizoma's (or other brand) would.  If you are required to have the reflectors installed for licensing inspections, then it may not be a perfect solution.  However, you might be able to still use it as a mounting point, by rigging up a bracket of some kind to mount the turn signals below/above or to the front/rear of the reflector.

Hope the info helps.

keand3

Thanks for the tip. Will look into it.

QuoteIf you are required to have the reflectors installed for licensing inspections, then it may not be a perfect solution.

Luckily, its not required  :i_am_so_happy:
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Quote from: keand3 on January 08, 2014, 01:29:14 PM
Thanks John!

I will bee taking them a closer look when time comes. I do believe smoked/tinted is leagal here i Norway, so i might buy those.
Always fun to get pulled over...  :good2: :rofl2:
That is the big thing......95% of those aftermarket signals are not DOT approved for the USA. Any Kellermann signals you like? They are TUV approved.