R6 Wheels and USD Forks ' 85 FJ 1100 " Upgrade

[rktmanfj]

Later R6s use 310mm, per Yamaha spec page.   

http://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport/products/modelspecs/8/0/specs.aspx

[DreadRock]

Found this ... Helped me some but thought it might help others ...

Bike  Size  year  Size                                     #
Ducati 998 02-03 320 4.5 14.5 64.2 8.5 80 6 MD636LD MD636RD
Ducati 999/999 S/999 R 03-06 320 4.5 14.5 72.2 8.5 90 5 MD622LD MD622RD
Honda RC 30 Oversize 320 5 17.8 58.3 6.3 74 6 MD702LD MD702RD
Honda CBR 600 F2 (Oversize Floating Conv.) 91-94 310 4.7 0 144.3 10.5 166 6 MD601LD MD601RD
Honda CBR 600 F3 Oversize (EBC 1003 type) 95-98 320 5 17.2 62.2 6.3 78 6 MD709LD MD709RD
Honda CBR 600 F3/SJR/SE 95-98 296 5 17.2 58 6.3 74 6 MD1003LD MD1003RD MD1003CR
Honda CBR 600 F4 Standard 296mm disc 99-00 310 5 17.2 62.2 6.3 78 6 MD1014LD MD1014RD MD1014CR
Honda CBR 600 F4 Oversize 320mm disc 99-00 320 5 17.2 62.2 6.3 78 6 MD729LD MD729RD
Honda CBR 600 F4i Sport 01-06 296 4.7 12.5 95 6.3 110 6 MD1141LD MD1141RD
Honda CBR 600 RR 03-06 310 4.5 12.5 94.2 6.3 110 6 MD1152LD MD1152RD MD1152CR
Honda RVF 750 R (RC45) 94-95 310 5.5 21.1 58 6.3 74 6 MD1012LD MD1012RD
Honda 750 R (RC 30) 90 310 6 17.8 58 6.3 74 6 MD1010LD MD1010RD
Honda CBR 900 R Oversize (EBC 1014 type) 92-93 320 5 17.2 62.2 6.3 78 6 MD716LD MD716RD
Honda CBR 900 RR (320mm oversize rotor) 98-99 320 5 21.1 58.3 6.3 74 6 MD729LD MD729RD
Honda CBR 900 RR Fireblade 95-97 296 5 17.2 58 6.3 74 6 MD1003LD MD1003RD MD1003CR
Honda CBR 900 RR Fireblade 98-99 310 5 21.1 62 6.3 78 6 MD1134LD MD1134RD MD1134CR
Honda CBR 929 RR (929cc model) 00-01 330 4.5 12.5 94.3 6.3 110 6 MD1137LD MD1137RD MD1137CR
Honda CBR 954 RR (954cc model) 02-03 330 4.5 12.5 94.3 6.3 110 6 MD1137LD MD1137RD MD1137CR
Honda CBR 1000 RR 04-06 310 5 12.75 94.2 6.3 110 6 MD1153LD MD1153RD MD1153CR
Bolt PCD No of Part No Part No Contour
Make & Model (wheel) Yr Dia Offset Bore Dia Bolts Bolts Left Right Disc *
234
RACE/SPECIAL
ROTORS & CALIPERS
EBC RACE ROTOR PROGRAM - FRONT NOT FOR HIGHWAY USE (Contd)...
Honda RVT 1000 R (RC51) 00-06 320 4.5 12.5 94.3 6.3 110 6 MD1138LD MD1138RD
Honda VTR 1000 F Super Hawk 98-06 296 5 17.2 58 6.3 74 6 MD1003LD MD1003RD MD1003CR
Kawasaki Ex (GPz) 500 Floating Rotor Conversion 87-93 280 5 Ø 130.3 10.5 150 6 MD714LD
Kawasaki Ex (GPz) 500 Floating Rotor Conversion 94-05 280 5 Ø 130.3 10.5 150 6 MD714RD
Kawasaki ZX 6R (ZX 600 F1/F2/F3) 95-97 299 4.7 12.5 61 10.5 81.2 5 MD4008LD MD4008RD MD4008CR
Kawasaki 6R (ZX 600 G1/G2/J1/J2/J3) 98-02 299 4.7 13.4 61 10.5 81.2 5 MD4136LD MD4136RD MD4136CR
Kawasaki 6RR (ZX 600 K1/M1) 599cc 03-04 280 5.8 0 80.4 10.5 100 5 MD4151LD MD4151RD MD4151CR
Kawasaki ZX 6R (ZX 636 A1) 02 299 4.7 13.4 61 10.5 81.2 5 MD4136LD MD4136RD MD4136CR
Kawasaki 6R (ZX 636 B1/B2) 636cc 03-04 280 5.8 0 80.4 10.5 100 5 MD4151LD MD4151RD MD4151CR
Kawasaki ZX6R (ZX 600 N1/N6F) 05-06 380 5.8 0 80.4 10.5 100 5 MD4152CR
Kawasaki ZX6RR (ZX 636 C1/C6F) 05-06 380 5.8 0 80.4 10.5 100 5 MD4152CR
Kawasaki ZX 7R (ZX 750 P1-P8) (6 piston pad) Tokico caliper96-03 320 5 13.1 61 10.5 81.2 6 MD4022LD MD4022RD MD4022CR
Kawasaki KX 7RR (ZX 750 N1/N2) (6 pison pad) Nissin caliper96-99 320 5 13.1 61 10.5 81.2 6 MD4022LD MD4022RD MD4022CR
Kawasaki ZX-9R B1/B2/B3/B4 Ninja 94-97 320 5 13.1 61 10.5 81.2 6 MD4022LD MD4022RD MD4022CR
Kawasaki ZX-9R (ZX 900 C1/C2) 98-99 299 4.7 13.4 61 10.5 81.2 5 MD4136LD MD4136RD MD4136CR
Kawasaki ZX9R (ZX 900 E1/E2) 00-01 310 5 13.25 61 10.5 81.2 5 MD4012LD MD4012RD MD4012CR
Kawasaki ZX9R (ZX 900 F1/F2) 02-03 320 5 13.1 61 10.5 81.2 6 MD4022LD MD4022RD MD4022CR
Kawasaki ZX10R (ZX 1000 C1/C2/C3/C6F) 04-06 300 5.8 0 80.4 10.5 100 5 MD4152CR
Suzuki - Oversize 320mm -97 320 5 22.3 64.2 10.5 86 5 MD700LD MD700RD
Suzuki/PM Superbike (zero offset)1 (Narrow band) -98 320 5 Ø 64.2 10.5 86 5 MD717LD MD717RD
Suzuki/PM Superbike (zero offset)2 (Standard band) -98 320 5 Ø 64.2 10.5 86 5 MD718LD MD718RD
Suzuki GSX-R 600 WN/WP 92-93 310 5 22.3 64.2 10.5 86 5 MD3007LD MD3007RD MD3007CR
Suzuki GSXR 600 V/W/X/Y/K1-K3/ZK3 97-03 320 5 0 69 10.5 91 5 MD3058LD MD3058RD MD3058CR
Suzuki GSXR 600 K4/K5 04-05 300 5.5 0 69.2 10.5 91 5 MD3089LD MD3089RD MD3089CR
Suzuki GSXR 600 K6 06 310 5.5 0 100.2 10.5 120 5 MD3091LD MD3091RD MD3091CR
Suzuki GSX-R 750 T/V/W/X 96-99 320 5 0 69 10.5 91 5 MD3058LD MD3058RD MD3058CR
Suzuki GSX-R 750 Y/K1/K2/K3 00-03 320 5 0 69 10.5 91 5 MD3058LD MD3058RD MD3058CR
Suzuki GSXR 750 K4/K5 04-05 300 5.5 0 69.2 10.5 91 5 MD3089LD MD3089RD MD3089CR
Suzuki GSXR 750 K6 06 310 5.5 0 100.2 10.5 120 5 MD3091LD MD3091RD MD3091CR
Suzuki GSXR 1000 K1/K2 01-02 320 5 0 69 10.5 91 5 MD3058LD MD3058RD MD3058CR
Suzuki GSXR 1000 K3/K4 03-04 300 5.5 0 69.2 10.5 91 5 MD3089LD MD3089RD MD3089CR
Suzuki GSXR 1000 K5/K6 05-06 310 5.5 0 100.2 10.5 120 5 MD3091LD MD3091RD MD3091CR
Triumph Daytona 955i (6 bolt) 98-00 320 5 10 78 10.5 100.5 6 MD647LD MD647RD
Triumph Daytona 955i (5 bolt) 01-06 320 4.3 14.5 78 10.5 100 5 MD669LD MD669RD
Triumph TT 600 00-03 310 4.5 15.8 78.2 10.5 100 6 MD662LD MD662RD
Triumph Thruxton 900 04-06 320 5 0 144.3 10.5 166 6 MD629LD
Yamaha TZ 125/250 -97 282 5 10.0 64.2 8.5 80 6 MD2022LD MD2022RD
Yamaha TZ 125/250 98-05 299 5 10 64.2 8.5 80 6 MD730LD MD730RD
Yamaha YZF 600 RG/RGC/RH/RHC 95-96 298 5 9.5 64 8.5 80 6 MD2001LD MD2001RD MD2001CR
Yamaha YZF 600 R/RJ/RK/RL/RM/RN/RP/RR/RS 97-04 298 5 0 132 8.5 150 6 MD2074LD MD2074RD MD2074CR
Yamaha YZF 600 RRL/RRM/RRN/RRP (R6) 99-02 298 5 0 132 8.5 150 6 MD2074LD MD2074RD MD2074CR
Yamaha YZF 600 RRR/RRS (R6) 03-04 299 5 0 132.5 8.5 150 5 MD2082LD MD2082RD MD2082CR
Yamaha YZF 1000 R Thunderace 97 298 5 0 132 8.5 150 6 MD2074LD MD2074RD MD2074CR
Yamaha YZF 'R1' 98-03 298 5 0 132 8.5 150 6 MD2074LD MD2074RD MD2074CR
Yamaha YZF R1 (5VY) 04-06 320 4.5 0 132.2 8.5 150 5 MD2094LD MD2094RD MD2094CR
Yamaha

[Pat Conlon]

I don't see the YZF750R listed, shame.
Remember, it's your forks (i.e caliper mounting points) that dictate your rotor size.

[DreadRock]

   That is true and good thing if needed can be adjusted . Did find a snag with 320mm rotors as they don't make them for the CBR wheel but found a few very neat ideas to fix that ! Need to read more   

Sorry thought it was think it was a brain fart thinking of the Thunderace 

[DreadRock]

 Found this one with the YZF 750R ...


There are plenty of discs about that will fit the FZR - Range 1000 & 750's WITH 320MM FRONTS, NOT REARS.

Yamaha shares this rotor:

Specs: - outer diameter: 320 mm

- inner diameter: 64 mm

- thickness: 4 mm

- offset: 9.5 mm

BOLT PATTERNS ARE THE SAME

WITH YAMAHA Models:

- FZ 1000 R from 1987 till 1989

- FZR 1000 EXUP from 1989 till 1995

· FZR 250 87-

· FZR 750 Genesis 87

· FZR 1000 Genesis 87-88

· FZR 1000 EX-UP 89-95

· SRX 400 (3VN1/3VN2/3VN5) 90-96

· SRX 600 (3SX) 90-91

· SZR 660 96-97

· TDR 250 88-92

· TZR 250 87-92

· XJR 1200 from 1994 till 1998

· XJR 1300 (5EA1) 98

· YZF 750 R/SP 93-97

- YZF 750 R from 1993 till 1995

- To make the list complete:

APRILIA:

- CAPONORD RAID from 2003

- ETV MANA from 2002

- RSV MILLE from 1998 till 2000

- RSV MILLE R 2000

- RSV MILLE SP 2000

- SL 1000 FALCO 2000

DUCATI:

- 620ie MONSTER from 2001

- 620 SS from 2003

- 748 DESMOQUATTRO from 1994 till 1997

- 748 E/S & R from 1998 till 2002

- 749 also S from 2003

- 750 SS from 1991 till 1998

- 800 SS from 2003

- 800 SPORT from 2003

- 851 from 1988 till 1991

- MH 900 E 2000

- 900 M MOSTRO from 1993 till 2000

- 900 SS from 1991 till 1998

- MOSTRO S4 from 2001 till 2002

- 916 all models from 1994 till 1998

- 996 from 1999 till 2001

- 1000 MOSTRO from 2003

the FZR600 uses 298mm diameter discs 64mm inner diameter 4mm thick minimum thickness is 3.5mm the discs are fitted to FZR600 1989-93 FZR600R 1994-95 after this date the discs are 320mm (yzf600r) as fitted to the fs6 and R6 etc

[Pat Conlon]

Any luck finding a 320mm rotor that fits the Honda rim's bolt pattern?
The final piece of the puzzle will be the offset needed on the rotor. If the width of the Honda hub is the same as the width on the YZF750 hub you should be ok with the 9.5mm offset rotor. If the width is more, or less than the YZF, then the rotor offset will be different. Width meaning the distance measured from surface to surface where the rotor carrier mounts on the rim.
So....mount your R-1 calipers on your YZF forks...measure the distance between them (at center of slots) then measure the width of your Honda's hub and the difference between the 2 measurements will be what you need for the rotor offset.

[DreadRock]

  This is where the problem is and that's  just the rotor size . The Honda rim has a funny bolt pattern and are 270 something and the biggest out there is 310mm . I did find a guy that made rings that mount to the Honda rim then could run a what ever 320mm disk you wanted . But the price to make those are out of this world and I just don't have the coin to go there . Not giving up yet but not looking good either LOL but I guess if it was easy every one would be doing it !!!! 
  I understand that last bit Pat as that's what I did building my 75 xs500 running FZR rear and front brakes but that's a diff Animal then the FJ ! Will keep all posted on where this goes ....

[rktmanfj]

as that's what I did building my 75 xs500 running FZR rear and front brakes

Pics, please...     

[DreadRock]

   BEFOR :



AFTER :




Took about 2 1/2 year to build but its alot of fun !
  XS frame,motor,tank,forks
  RD wheels
  FZR rear and front rotors
  SV650 front caliper
  VM32 carbs
  R6 rearset
  GSXR brake lever
  HD rear shocks
  Few custom parts here and there ! Here is a link to the build thread :

http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=29668.0

[Pat Conlon]

Very nice work DRock. If you had not come along, I bet that XS would still be sitting in that field.
You saved her life, and while doing so, turned her into a super model...

Something tells me that your FJ is in good hands....

[rktmanfj]

Yeah, very nice!   

You just don't see many of those, and almost never as a custom.

Thanks for putting the pics up!

[simi_ed]

Yeah, very nice!   

You just don't see many of those, and almost never as a custom.

Thanks for putting the pics up!

+1!!!  Very Nice indeed.  I loved that your rebuild thread was 47 pages.  I only had time for aout 10 pages, but I'll be back to finish that one off.  My older brother had a XS500 that he imported from Japan in ~'75.  I always had a soft spot for that bike.

[fj1289]

DreadRock - IF YOU KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THE PADS you can run 310mm discs.  The danger becomes the part of the pad that overhangs the outside edge of the rotor -- as the pads wear they develop a ridge that will eventually the ridge will keep the pads from making contact with the rotors. You can either replace the pads or grind the ridge down or replace the pads early. 

Same issue I had when I put the Honda 16" rim on the R1 forks on the dragbike. 

Good luck!

Chris

[fj1289]

Nice work on the XS!

[DreadRock]

Thanks guys I Appreciate it ! Can't say I did everything had alot of help from people smarter then me LOL

  I'm hoping to get the forks mounted up this weekend . As for the disks Pat was on it 100% with the YZF running 320mm not 310mm . Once the wheel is all mounted can see which is need or can get away with . Nice thing is if the off-set is close and the calipers are mounted inside of the fork leg might be able to shim then out if needed !! Will see lol