new member in colorado

[oldktmdude]

   It would be interesting to find out what percentage of "modern bikes" use a spin-on filter. I'm sure the vast majority would use them. Would be a good exercise for somebody to convert my "speculation" into "fact".    Pete.

[Alf]

I reckon that I disliked the spin-on oil filter, mainly due to looked me ugly.

After reading the discussion my only arguments is my own experience:

- Leave if you like that history about easier change : if you have a proper place to perform the task it is only 15 min more... Well "proper place" is the key for me: in my annual travel I do have to change the oil and the filter. And in the middle of deep Portugal, Spain or Slovakia you don´t carry a torque wrench to proper screw that casing to 1,5kgm. And I don´t want to think about what would happen if I overtight  and break the thread... I think I through the bike to the bin and get a plane to come back to my island 

- And you don´t have all the oil splashed around

- And its true that the spin on cool more: about 2-3 ºC. Checked. important when the minimum temperature where you live is 20º C, and even the maximum is only 30ºC, the tarmac can be at 50ºC in very thigh and slow roads. It could be the little extra oil capacity too

- And at the end, and retaking my starting argument, the pics don´t do justice: it is fantastic, giving the bike a "tricky" look

[racerrad8]

It would be interesting to find out what percentage of "modern bikes" use a spin-on filter.
  Pete.

Pete, it is interesting that you bring up that point. It is common in the UK that people own both the FJ and the current FJR1300. The FJR1300 uses a spin on oil filter and they use the same filter on the FJ spin-on conversion.

So, I guess if it is now good enough for Yamaha to use on their current production bikes, we can rest assured it will also work without any issue on the converted FJ.

Randy - RPM

[baldy3853]

Randy good point about the FJR!!! 

[Dan Filetti]

In the event that someone say, 5 years from now is scrolling though this, attempting to understand all of the pros and cons of this mod, to include speculation and conjecture, I will include here, Harvey's most recent assertion, on another thread, that converting to spin-on filter, may actually reduce heat transference to the slave, and therefore extend the life of the slave...

As is now fairly common knowledge among us FJ folk, the clutch slave is prone to leaking...... I think it is also fair to say that the cause is heat.....

So a story for you all.......

I last rebuilt the slave on my FJ late November 2009...... just prior to installing a spin-on filter adapter. Since that re-build I have not had a clutch problem and I think it may have to do with the fact that the slave is now able to be cooled a little better with the greater surface area now exposed to air with the removal of the OEM filter housing.

Just a theory of mine..... and I hope I haven't jinxed myself by posting it here.....

Harvy

I can only hope Harvey, that by my re-posting it, it does not 'strengthen' the aforementioned jinx...



Dan

[fj1289]

Well sir you ave not proved your point. And using angry words does not make it an
y bettter

Didn't realize there was a "requirement" to "prove" anything to anyone on here.  We share our experience with these bikes specifically and from our professional and personal backgrounds in general.  And it's like a buffet - take what you want and leave what you don't, but until you've contributed to the group effort, you really haven't earned the right to bitch and generally be disagreeable and argumentative. 

This really is an FJ club online vice a typical forum for flame wars and painfully pointless point-counterpoint arguments that should be on Big Bang Theory instead of this site. 

As for the FJ, there's only a few options - stock filter cartridge setup that is a far cry from the newest-bestest setups currently in use in the applications you mentioned (but in no way provided any "proof" to their superiority other than the anecdotal evidence of who is using them; the spin on adaptor and your choice of what filter to use; or finally, use your superior kmowledge and make a better filteation system for the FJ and help the "brotherhood" keeps these steeds running fast for the next 30 years. 

Chris Wyatt

Oh, we do have many colorful members - as you will find in any good "club" - and even the most sarcastic, or even "offensive" member we have is very well respected and liked since he stands on what he has contributed to the group - not just an ability to argue and stir up crap -- although he does quite well at that too!

[rktmanfj]

This really is an FJ club online vice a typical forum for flame wars and painfully pointless point-counterpoint arguments that should be on Big Bang Theory instead of this site. 

It's been said that 'we're not a club - clubs have rules'...         

[Joe Sull]

Do spin on's come in red?

[FJmonkey]

Do spin on's come in red?

They all do with a little RED paint...

[Jonesy]

FWIW the XS1100 guys are doing the spin on mod too. I'm one of ém, and its a convenience thing for me, If you do oil at every 2500Km's and a filter every 2nd oil change like I do filter quality is important but not a terribly big issue as the dirty stuff is dumped often and doesn't get a chance to accumulate.  I'd rather be sure I'm using a quality oil.
Oh yeah and welcome fj & srx from another new guy.

[racerrad8]

Oh yeah and welcome fj & srx from another new guy.

Unfortunately he has not been back since 10 minutes after I posted addressing all of his points;
Last Active:    November 30, 2013, 11:10:49 PM

Hopefully he stops back by and become a part of the group.

Randy - RPM

[CanDman]

      I should have been paying attention !!!!!




       home alone traps.

[FJscott]

Do spin on's come in red?

Yes. Baldwin filters standard color is RED
Scott

[FJscott]

In the event that someone say, 5 years from now is scrolling though this, attempting to understand all of the pros and cons of this mod, to include speculation and conjecture, I will include here, Harvey's most recent assertion, on another thread, that converting to spin-on filter, may actually reduce heat transference to the slave, and therefore extend the life of the slave...

As is now fairly common knowledge among us FJ folk, the clutch slave is prone to leaking...... I think it is also fair to say that the cause is heat.....

So a story for you all.......

I last rebuilt the slave on my FJ late November 2009...... just prior to installing a spin-on filter adapter. Since that re-build I have not had a clutch problem and I think it may have to do with the fact that the slave is now able to be cooled a little better with the greater surface area now exposed to air with the removal of the OEM filter housing.

Just a theory of mine..... and I hope I haven't jinxed myself by posting it here.....

Harvy

I can only hope Harvey, that by my re-posting it, it does not 'strengthen' the aforementioned jinx...



Dan

after the ECFR my slave started leaking. the PO said it was rebuilt within a year or so. after reading Harvey's original post
on his theory of heat transferring from OEM filter housing to the slave housing, this resonated loudly to me.so much that I ordered the spin-on filter conversion even though I have 6 OEM oil filter elements in my garage. Also ordered a new slave.

with these recent purchases I really hope Dan didn't Jinx Harvey's theory.

Scott