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rpm's fork brace

Started by ELIMINATOR, October 30, 2013, 05:23:43 PM

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ELIMINATOR

Bit the bullet after deliberating if this is worth the money, I shall find out soon. :good2:
BMW 1150GS
Moto Guzzi California 3

airheadPete

I think you'll like it. It is, (as the English say?), a nice bit of kit. :nyam2:
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'78 GS750E.   '81 R100RS
'76 R90/6       '89 R100GS
'65 R60/2

Capn Ron

And it makes for a handy tie-down point on the ferries!



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ELIMINATOR

"nice bit of kit" alternatively. "It's the dogs bollocks"
BMW 1150GS
Moto Guzzi California 3

andyoutandabout

Mine's still working after a these years. Should have come as a standard part before the bikes left the factory.
Andy
life without a bike is just life

ELIMINATOR

then we would have intact mudguards!
BMW 1150GS
Moto Guzzi California 3

Vsekvsek

How involved are putting these on? I have been wanting to put stiffer fork springs in. Figured if I have to rip into the front end I would do that at the same time.
89 fj
09 wr300 husqvarna

markmartin

Quote from: Vsekvsek on November 12, 2013, 11:36:02 PM
How involved are putting these on? I have been wanting to put stiffer fork springs in. Figured if I have to rip into the front end I would do that at the same time.

It's a direct bolt on.  Four allen head bolts attach the back half to the front half and you're off to the races.

FJ1100mjk

Quote from: ELIMINATOR on October 30, 2013, 05:23:43 PM
deliberating if this is worth the money

I will look forward to your report on the fork brace.

I recently reviewed comments regarding a fork brace on a FJ owners Facebook (thanks for the link aviationfred) Group. They are mixed, but gravitate towards the positive end.

Always wondered about the claims of fork's flexure causing cracks and broken mounting tabs in/on the fender. And that possibly they could be more attributed to plastic aging, and improper (over) torque of the mounting fasteners, or improper assembly of washers and brake hose brackets instead.

And I also wondered if the fork brace applications were better suited to their original, earllier applications of spindly 35 - 38mm diameter forks.

I do know that stiffer springs in the front, are worth their expense.

Yours are on their way to you, and again, I look forward to your report on them.

Marty
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FJmonkey

If you are not sure if the RPM fork brace helps, all you have to do is look at your OEM fork brace. Remove the 4 fasteners and look at the size and shape of the holes. I don't think the holes being out of round or larger than they need to be can be attributed to the metal getting old. The FJ forks are flexing when they are bumping down the road. That is why Yamaha put that metal plate on the forks and called it a fork brace. They just did not design it well enough to be really effective.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

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Dads_FJ

Quote from: FJ1100mjk on November 13, 2013, 07:48:10 AM
Quote from: ELIMINATOR on October 30, 2013, 05:23:43 PM
deliberating if this is worth the money

... And that possibly they could be more attributed to plastic aging, and improper (over) torque of the mounting fasteners, or improper assembly of washers and brake hose brackets instead...


Marty


That's what I used to think - Until I replaced my front fender with a brand new OEM from Yamaha (Granted it may have been NOS) and it too cracked where it mounts within a few years.  I was careful while tightening the screws and I don't use the brake hose brackets with the SS lines.  I believe my fender would be intact had a fork brace been installed.

John S.

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'89 Yamaha FJ1200
'94 Yamaha WR250
'80 BMW R100S/Sidecar
'39 BSA WM20

FJ1100mjk

Quote from: FJmonkey on November 13, 2013, 09:25:56 AM
all you have to do is look at your OEM fork brace.

Monkey:

Not sure what you mean by OEM fork "brace". I don't see a brace in the exploded view for the fork assembly (1987), where logically, a fork brace should reside...

http://www.boats.net/parts/search/Yamaha/Motorcycle/1987/FJ1200T/FRONT%20FORK/parts.html

I do see a BRACKET, FENDER Item #2 in the fenders' (1987) exploded views...

http://www.boats.net/parts/search/Yamaha/Motorcycle/1987/FJ1200T/FENDER/parts.html

Is this what you are referring to?

Marty
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FJmonkey

Quote from: FJ1100mjk on November 13, 2013, 09:54:10 AM
I do see a BRACKET, FENDER Item #2 in the fenders' (1987) exploded views...

http://www.boats.net/parts/search/Yamaha/Motorcycle/1987/FJ1200T/FENDER/parts.html

Is this what you are referring to?

Marty

Yes, I have seen it labeled as fork brace but that is the part I mentioned. I wonder what the factory manual calls it?
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

skymasteres

Marty,

You are correct, Mark is reffering to the #2 bracket that you identified. If you look at the forces being applied to the front suspension you can see that, when cornering, there is going to be a bending force that will try and move the forks independantly. (Pushing one up and pulling the other down) This is what breaks the fender tabs and what the heavier RPM fork brace prevents.  (If you think about the size of the axle bolt up front and the distance from the axis of action, it's easy to see how these forces will create some flex there.)

Not all bikes experiance enough flexing for it to be a problem. Case in point, the Honda Magnas of days gone by, simply replace the stock fender bracket with a 1/4" aluminum plate. It uses the stock mounting
points and is sufficient to tighten up things at the level they are typically ridden to. The FJ's on the other had are capable of much greater cornering performance...

Pat Conlon

If you have removed the stock brake hose brackets, you *must* put some washers under your fender tabs to compensate or you will crack your tabs.

Yes, the FJ's spindly (by today's standards) 41mm fork tubes flex, the brace helps.

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