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FJ1200 rear wheel swap

Started by Terry in Australia, October 25, 2013, 08:26:01 PM

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jscgdunn

Quote from: Arnie on November 06, 2013, 08:07:43 AM
Terry,

IIRC your '87 used the original ventilated 267mm disks.


Hi Arnie,
What is "IIRC"?

Jeff
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

FJmonkey

The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

jscgdunn

Thanks....now into the infinite pile of acronyms...this is an engineering company (work), after all.
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

Terry in Australia

G'Day Guys, thanks for your interest, good to see that members here have enquiring minds, like mine. To answe your questions, I've no idea what size the FZ6 discs are, or the axle size.

I can make adapter plates to move the calipers to suit the larger discs, and I haven't decided whether I'll use the OEM calipers or upgrade them with some more modern 4 piston calipers, I think I've got some GSXR1100 calipers here somewhere, and some nice old Brembo 2 piston calipers too, or I might even buy some FZ6 calipers. I'll wait until the wheel arrives before I get too excited.

Axle and speedo drive issues shouldn't be a major concern either, the axle may be the same size, but if not I'll source some bearings with the FJ axle size and the FZ6 outer bearing size if they're available,or if not, I'll make some more adapters.

I haven't pulled the FJ wheel apart yet but I'm very familiar with this type of speedo drive, as I've been farting around with single cam CB750's for the last 35 years or so, and usually the speedo drive "gearbox" has a simple adapter with tabs that sit in a slot machined into the hub. Not really precision engineering, which suits me fine, as I'm not that precise, ha ha!

You've all seen pics of FJ's, so just for a change, here's a pic of my old CB750, fitted with Yamaha FZR1000 forks and brakes, adapted to a modified CB750 hub laced to a wider Akront rim, with custom aluminium triple trees etc. Cheers, Terry.  :yes:


The General

Whoo there! is that Spleen Green or Rolled Gold...Better get me sunglasses for a closer look...ummmm, flips might have some real competition next March!  :drinks:
`93 with downside up forks.
`78 XS11/1200 with a bit on the side.
Special edition Rocket Ship ZX14R Kwacka

Harvy

OK Terry, looking at your work on the Honda, seems there is no need to worry about whether something fits  - you WILL MAKE IT FIT!

Roll on March so we here in Aus can see what you create.    :good2:

Cheers
Harvy
FJZ1 1200 - It'll do me just fine.
Timing has much to do with the success of a rain dance.

Bones

We'll done Terry, the old Honda looks great, especially the colour. The front end doesn't look out of place at all, if fact looks better than standard. I don't think you'll have any trouble at all retro fitting any parts to the FJ.

                                                        Tony.
93 fj1200
79 suzuki gt250x7


Too young to be old but old enough to know better.

movenon

The Honda looks beautiful. Keep us posted as you go with the FJ. Your conversion will work out just fine. I keep up a little with the cafe racers sites and it amazes me what one can do adapting parts. I don't own a cafe racer but enjoy the custom design and engineering aspects. Keep up the good work  :good2:.
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

Terry in Australia

Thanks Guys, sadly I sold that bike around a year ago, and the last time I saw it, the person who bought it was telling everyone on a Cafe Racer site that he was going to turn it into a Cafe Racer. I told him that I'd buy back all the parts that he discarded, but never heard back from him. I don't know if I'd like to see what it looks like now.........

Anyway, thanks again, and I'll post pics as the FJ wheel conversion comes together. I received a box full of shiny parts from Randy yesterday, so it'll be nice to add a little bling to the poor old thing. Cheers, Terry. ;D


jscgdunn

Quote from: Terry in Australia on November 07, 2013, 02:37:39 PM
Thanks Guys, sadly I sold that bike around a year ago, and the last time I saw it, the person who bought it was telling everyone on a Cafe Racer site that he was going to turn it into a Cafe Racer.


What a waste
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

ken65

that cb looks like it would stop a bit better than my cb, and my fj,,  its a nice looking bike.  ken

movenon

Boy, I agree with Jeff. What a waste to convert that Honda to a cafe racer !! The guy that bought it must have a lot more money than brains. Depressing to think about.
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

Terry in Australia

Thanks Guys, I don't have anything against a well executed Cafe Racer, I just couldn't understand why the new owner thought he needed to change the look of my gold bike, but to be fair, I took his money so I've no right to complain, and I can always build another one just like it.

I built this Cafe Racer which gets a lot of attention and is great fun and very quick, but only for short rides, it's too bloody uncomfortable for a fat old man. Cheers, Terry.  :sarcastic:


jscgdunn

Terry,
Yours looks great.  Just that taking a really nice SOHC 750 (my dream bike when I was a kid) with a cool front end just seems like sacrilege.  She was a beaut.


Jeff
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

Terry in Australia

Well just to keep this thread boiling along, I thought I'd post a pic of both wheels. The front wheel arrived last week, I'm really stoked at how good both wheels are, another reason why I didn't want to just buy 20+ year old wheels that I'd likely have to refurbish before I could install them.

I don't know if I'd like to own an FZ6R, there appear to be lots of wheels available from these late model bikes. (my wheels came from two different bikes, one from Tasmania and one from Michigan, from memory, and both bikes had done lass than 2000 miles when they were totalled) Good thing is that the tyres are like new, as are the brake discs, and the rear caliper (that came off another totalled FZ6R.......) even has "as new" pads in it. Crazy........  :unknown:

Sadly the front wheel bearing ID is 20mm, so I'll have to pop the old bearings out, but luckily I had a set of new "All Balls" wheel bearings for a Honda CX500 (15mm axle, same as my FJ) and they appear to be the same OD as the FZ6R bearings, so they should go straight it. Another piece of the puzzle looks to have dropped into place.

I bought a bearing puller set on good ol' eBay on Friday, so hopefully it'll arrive this week and I'll be able to pull the bearings and swap 'em over. Cheers, Terry.  :yes: