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The most complicated roof I have built...unlike Ahab, I harpooned this beast

Started by CanDman, October 05, 2013, 12:59:00 PM

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CanDman

October 05, 2013, 12:59:00 PM
After several weeks of fighting this beast  :wacko3:....I finally laid this Whale to rest    :dash1: !!!!!! This is by far the most complicated roof I have ever built....but I think I nailed it!!!! with 1,000,000 nails...  :mocking:

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After








I don't think a beer ever tasted as good as the one I drank yesterday afternoon....... :drinks: .....what a F'n nightmare this was.... :wacko2:

Now you know how the CanDman earns his keep........ if anyone needs a house built.......   :bye:
Never regret your choices in life ! There is no way to go back to do it again and compare. Make the most and do your best with every decision you make

oz.fj

#1
October 05, 2013, 04:37:10 PM
From 1 builder to another well done :good2:
Roof trusses have certainly allowed architects, designers, draftsmen etc. to go all out now days. Try pitching that one by hand :wacko3:
Wait to you come down under and see our  timber framing. We don't have to allow for snow loads. So lower pitches and 70x35 Pine framing @ 450 centres external and 600 internal.
Looks like tooth picks compared to that frame. 
:drinks:
Darran
89 FJ 1200 Shiny Black
89 FJ 1200 x 3 Red White Silver
92 XR 250
Life is pretty straight without twisties

CanDman

#2
October 05, 2013, 05:25:57 PM
Quote from: oz.fj on October 05, 2013, 04:37:10 PM
From 1 builder to another well done :good2:
Roof trusses have certainly allowed architects, designers, draftsmen etc. to go all out now days. Try pitching that one by hand :wacko3:
Wait to you come down under and see our  timber framing. We don't have to allow for snow loads. So lower pitches and 70x35 Pine framing @ 450 centres external and 600 internal.
Looks like tooth picks compared to that frame.  
:drinks:
Darran

Hey ...thx for the pat on the back Darran.....as for conventionally cutting this roof......I think the jury is still out on that one......lol......so many problems with these trusses that needed resolving (6 major and 10 minor)....every truss had to be positioned just right for all the roof planes to work.....and with so many corners and girder trusses (and7 different pitches)  .......zero margin for error..... I almost would have preferred cutting the roof..... :mail1:....no surprises....(30% of the roof was filled in conventionally) ..... I am really looking forward to getting together and talking shop.....I am so excited about heading over there...  :yahoo:  ....c u soon  :good:
Kev
Never regret your choices in life ! There is no way to go back to do it again and compare. Make the most and do your best with every decision you make

roverfj1200

#3
October 05, 2013, 05:30:17 PM
Quote from: oz.fj on October 05, 2013, 04:37:10 PM
We don't have to allow for snow loads.

What is this "snow" thing........................... :rofl2:
1988 FJ1200
1991 FJ1200

Richard.

CanDman

#4
October 05, 2013, 05:40:39 PM
Quote from: roverfj1200 on October 05, 2013, 05:30:17 PM
Quote from: oz.fj on October 05, 2013, 04:37:10 PM
We don't have to allow for snow loads.

What is this "snow" thing........................... :rofl2:

  :blum2:
Never regret your choices in life ! There is no way to go back to do it again and compare. Make the most and do your best with every decision you make

The General

#5
October 05, 2013, 07:04:59 PM
Quote from: CanDman on October 05, 2013, 12:59:00 PM
After several weeks of fighting this beast  :wacko3:....I finally laid this Whale to rest    :dash1: !!!!!! This is by far the most complicated roof I have ever built....but I think I nailed it!!!! with 1,000,000 nails...  :mocking:

Now you know how the CanDman earns his keep........ if anyone needs a house built.......   :bye:
Mate, you are a gifted Artisan. I`m not a carpenter but do have a bit of a clue on construction. I spent 7 years as the elected treasurer of the Sunshine coast HIA (Housing Industry Assoc) Committee and also 5 years as the KBA (Kitchen & Bathroom Assoc)  Chairman that took me to many Exec meetings all about bullshit politics, but also the occasional dispute on Engineering requirements, Construction regulations and techniques...I`ve sent a copy of your achievement off to my Brother-in-law. He too is a gifted Craftsman with appreciative eye for brilliance...so he too can have an "aha...nice" moment like I just did...
Mate I needed a beer just looking at it...So I can just imajine how good that beer`d be after making it happen!  :drinks:
`93 with downside up forks.
`78 XS11/1200 with a bit on the side.
Special edition Rocket Ship ZX14R Kwacka

CanDman

#6
October 05, 2013, 10:46:47 PM
Quote from: The General on October 05, 2013, 07:04:59 PM
Quote from: CanDman on October 05, 2013, 12:59:00 PM
After several weeks of fighting this beast  :wacko3:....I finally laid this Whale to rest    :dash1: !!!!!! This is by far the most complicated roof I have ever built....but I think I nailed it!!!! with 1,000,000 nails...  :mocking:

Now you know how the CanDman earns his keep........ if anyone needs a house built.......   :bye:
Mate, you are a gifted Artisan. I`m not a carpenter but do have a bit of a clue on construction. I spent 7 years as the elected treasurer of the Sunshine coast HIA (Housing Industry Assoc) Committee and also 5 years as the KBA (Kitchen & Bathroom Assoc)  Chairman that took me to many Exec meetings all about bullshit politics, but also the occasional dispute on Engineering requirements, Construction regulations and techniques...I`ve sent a copy of your achievement off to my Brother-in-law. He too is a gifted Craftsman with appreciative eye for brilliance...so he too can have an "aha...nice" moment like I just did...
Mate I needed a beer just looking at it...So I can just imajine how good that beer`d be after making it happen!  :drinks:


Mate....you're getting me a bit misty eyed there......(easy on the praise   :blush:)....I apologize if I appear to be showing off..it is not my intention... I know sometimes life can be a real uphill battle....and sometimes if we fight and hang on to the bitter end.....we can win..... it is always a great moment for me to stand on the back of my foe in absolute amazement .....and shout !!!  
Doug....... ?  :drinks:



Moby Dick; Starbuck to Ahab, blasphemy!



What a speech !!!!!!
Kev
Never regret your choices in life ! There is no way to go back to do it again and compare. Make the most and do your best with every decision you make

The General

#7
October 06, 2013, 04:14:56 AM
Aussies appreciate a good roof!
Colorbond Ad
`93 with downside up forks.
`78 XS11/1200 with a bit on the side.
Special edition Rocket Ship ZX14R Kwacka

CanDman

#8
October 06, 2013, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: The General on October 06, 2013, 04:14:56 AM
Aussies appreciate a good roof!


:rofl2: great add..... !!!



Well if you like roofs...you love Moby's evil twin  :diablo:.......I built this beast in 09......wasn't as complicated  ....just a bit bigger..... :mocking:















Please forgive me if I appear to be boasting or immodest .......this is my job and career and the place where I have to be a professional....... but ...in here ........ I can come and play and have fun......and be silly.....and relax ..... and enjoy the company of some awesome people from all over the world  :drinks:
Kev    
Never regret your choices in life ! There is no way to go back to do it again and compare. Make the most and do your best with every decision you make

FJmonkey

#9
October 06, 2013, 12:10:06 PM
Now I know where I can find a source to build my FJ sanctuary when I win big and have $$$ to spend on my favorite hobby... 
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

CelticTiger

#10
October 06, 2013, 05:45:12 PM
Awesome work Kev, it makes my 3,200sqft  A-frame look like a kennel!

Regards,

Conor
Four wheels move the body but two wheels move the soul :-)

CanDman

#11
October 06, 2013, 07:56:41 PM
Thx for the compliment Conor , The problem with these monster homes is that they can eat the clock very quickly and if your hourly guys aren't producing....can become a bit of a double edged sword......3200 square feet is the best size for me to make the best money. Maybe one day when I am able to do so, I would very much love to visit Scotland England and Ireland......my roots go way back to Glasgow ....4 generations......one day......love to have a pint with you lad  :drinks:


And Monkey man.....whenever your ready......one thing though.... I have never built a tree house  b4 ....would be cool as hell.......could rig up a large hip waiter service to get your hobby wheels up and down......I do think though you should be looking at some of your own California Redwoods.....them beasts have some girth....... :good2:
CanDman
Never regret your choices in life ! There is no way to go back to do it again and compare. Make the most and do your best with every decision you make

Charlie-brm

#12
October 09, 2013, 10:07:52 PM
Ha ha Kev. I followed the photos without first checking who started the post. I was thinking "Geez, somewhere in the U.S. they have the same starter castles I see along Major Mackenzie Drive." (Southern Ontario for the other readers)

I took a custom log building course waaayyyyy back; held at King Campus. Everything by hand, in the field. No two logs the same. Discussions on roof structure and loading seemed to take on a religion of its own that some guys lived for and others just had their eyes glaze over and walked away. Like music, the subject fascinates me but I can't actually perform any of it myself. So, great work there.

Charlie
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Current Model: 1990 FJ1200 3CV since 2020
Past Models: 1984 FJ1100 - 2012 to 2020
1979 XS750SF - 2005 to 2012

BSI

#13
October 09, 2013, 11:22:40 PM
those are awesome pics Kev, building a house like that is a work art from my point of view...oh course I'm biased in that I sell building materials for a living (I'm a manf rep) and once swung a hammer to put food on my table. But you should be very proud of those homes and I'd personally love to see more as I really enjoy watching a project grow from a wish to a finished deal...congrats to you, well done!!!
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86' FJ1200
86' FJ1200 - just bought-not started in 2 yrs
04' Suzuki DRZ 400S - cornering on knobbies
76' Husky WR250 - bought in 81', needs lots of TLC

CanDman

#14
October 10, 2013, 06:13:14 AM
hey...BSI and sir Charles....thank you very much for your kind and generous compliments........I started framing when I was 22 and caught on pretty easily (naturally). It was something I took to rather seamlessly. After a year and a bit of banging the 80's boxes up........I went on my own. That was 1986 and I was 4 months shy of my 23rd birthday.....and I have been banging them up ever since. I love being outside.......could never be a suit and tie guy....no offence to anyone who is...it's just not me........

  " I'd rather trust a country man, than a town man
   he looks at you once , you know he understands
   don't need any shield, when you're out in the field

   I'd rather trust a man who works with his hands
   you can judge by his eyes, take a look if you can
   he'll smile through his guard, survival trains hard"

Genesis "The Lamb Lies down on Broadway"
"Chamber of 32 doors"


anyway.......I OWE I OWE, IT'S OFF TO WORK WE GO.........

Kev       
Never regret your choices in life ! There is no way to go back to do it again and compare. Make the most and do your best with every decision you make
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