Self canceling indicators

[Bones]

Can anyone shed some light on the self canceling indicators that these bikes are supposedly fitted with. Were they fitted to all models, or only available to certain countries.

The reason I ask is there has been a few times after initially indicating, that I've forgotten to push the button to turn them off and travelled down the road a fair distance before noticing the light flashing.

Although I've had no mishaps yet, I can envision people coming out of side streets, see your blinker on, think your turning, and pull out in front of you and T Boning a car, or truck.

If they were fitted to all bikes, what would be the problem with mine not working. Everything else that is supposed to work on my bike does, except that.

                                                            Tony.

[1tinindian]

Not all FJs had this feature as it was dropped somewhere after 1986.
My 91 FJ does not have them, but my 82 Suzuki does.

Topic has come up before.

Leon

[Bones]

Thanks Leon, at least I know there's nothing amiss now.

[Pat Conlon]

Yea, I have them on my '84 (i like them) and I *think* I recall someone saying that they had them on their '87 but they did not come on the '88 or newer FJ's ('89 in the US)

They are a nice feature but they do tend to make me lazy when I take them for granted.
I have to retrain myself when I ride my '92.

It is a dangerous mistake to leave your indicators on...something we should be trained to prevent.
It's just as dangerous to have malfunctioning self canceling indicators....self canceling that does not self cancel.
Perhaps why Yamaha and other manufacturers stopped using them.

[rktmanfj]

My '89 has them.

[1tinindian]

They still work on my 82 Suzuki and I like them. Wish the FJ had them.

Leon

[Tapartacus]

My 89 has them as well. I've left them blinking on occasion on my 92...not good! I think Noel has rigged some sort of led flasher to remind him they were in use.

Andrew

[oldktmdude]

   My '85 also has them. They worked fine until I fitted LED indicators but haven't worked since. I just make sure I turn them off after use. It becomes an automatic reaction after a while.

[Country Joe]

My 1990 has them.

  Joe

[JMR]

87 has them.

[ribbert]

Last time this was discussed I was amazed at the ho hum attitude of many to the dangers of riding with your indicator on. It is THE most stupid, dangerous and avoidable thing you can do in traffic. Someone here I recall had the problem licked, he advocated not using them at all, preferring a low hand signal. Not sure how that works with throttle, clutch and at night though or if drivers these days would even know what he was doing.

I don't like (trust) self cancelling indicators and as you all know, the FJ tell tales are not easy to see.

Yes, yes, yes, I know many of you NEVER forget, but for the rest of us driving in a busy environment distractions can pop out of nowhere with no notice and interrupt the sequence. I probably remember 999 out of 1000 but I still don't like those odds if it means a car is going to pull out right in front of me of turn across my bows.

I bought one of these (wouldn't waste my time making one for the money)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Motorcycle-indicator-warning-LED-a-must-have-/220540828057?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item335941f999&_uhb=1

It comes waterproofed externally, diodes, splitter and joins all shrink wrapped internally, flexible stalk and fittings all for under $20 including postage from the UK.

It is one of those gadgets that makes me smile (internally) every time I see it flashing because it just the perfect solution for hardly any money.

It can be seen easily in direct sunlight and the brightness can be controlled by angling it away slightly.







Love it.

Noel

[movenon]

My 1990 has them.

  Joe

Same here with my 1990.
George

[rktmanfj]

Waiting for someone to make the connection between gaining the pink stripe vs. losing the self cancelling signals...   

[novaraptor]

My 90 also has them. We were discussing self cancelling turn indicators in another group last week. Seems that on some of the newer motorcycles, ie Victorys, they are available as an option at around $300.00. I think that is rather expensive, since they are standard on cars and have been for years, but it was pointed out to me that the car sensors can cancel based on the angle of the front wheel. That would let the system know that the car had been turned. Motorcycle ones would have to have some sort of tilt/time switch setup. I think a simple timer on the light would at least make a safer system than no cancellation at all. I find that I have left my signal on for several blocks on my 250 scooter and yup, it's dangerous.

[rktmanfj]

My 90 also has them. We were discussing self cancelling turn indicators in another group last week. Seems that on some of the newer motorcycles, ie Victorys, they are available as an option at around $300.00. I think that is rather expensive, since they are standard on cars and have been for years, but it was pointed out to me that the car sensors can cancel based on the angle of the front wheel. That would let the system know that the car had been turned. Motorcycle ones would have to have some sort of tilt/time switch setup. I think a simple timer on the light would at least make a safer system than no cancellation at all. I find that I have left my signal on for several blocks on my 250 scooter and yup, it's dangerous.

The Yamaha signals are speed/time/distance sensitive, so if you have to stop, they remain on until the required distance is covered.  No tilt angle sensor used that I'm aware of.